1 00:00:02,639 --> 00:00:05,919 This is the Prophetic Cutting Edge podcast hosted 2 00:00:05,919 --> 00:00:09,220 by Joshua Snopek and Phil and Lorelei Collie, 3 00:00:09,519 --> 00:00:12,820 brought to you by Destiny Strategies Prophetic Ministry, 4 00:00:13,265 --> 00:00:15,505 where we make it simple to hear God's 5 00:00:15,505 --> 00:00:18,484 voice to empower you for your purpose. 6 00:00:21,505 --> 00:00:24,464 Hey, everyone. Welcome to the Prophetic Cutting Edge 7 00:00:24,464 --> 00:00:24,964 podcast 8 00:00:25,390 --> 00:00:27,550 where we make it simple to hear God's 9 00:00:27,550 --> 00:00:29,890 voice and empower you for your purpose. 10 00:00:30,269 --> 00:00:32,129 I'm your host, Joshua Snopek, 11 00:00:32,429 --> 00:00:35,309 with Phil and Lorelei Collie. Thanks for tuning 12 00:00:35,309 --> 00:00:38,129 into the very first episode of the Prophetic 13 00:00:38,350 --> 00:00:41,214 Cutting Edge. We're excited to launch this space 14 00:00:41,214 --> 00:00:43,875 where we talk about all things prophetic, practical, 15 00:00:44,015 --> 00:00:44,914 and powerful. 16 00:00:45,454 --> 00:00:47,774 Just so you know, this episode was actually 17 00:00:47,774 --> 00:00:51,454 recorded before our official Facebook Live launch or 18 00:00:51,454 --> 00:00:52,594 our live launch. 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,920 And so why? Why would we do that? 20 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,320 Well, we have a few episodes that we 21 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,559 wanted to put up in this space already 22 00:01:00,559 --> 00:01:02,239 so that you could have something to listen 23 00:01:02,239 --> 00:01:03,059 to beforehand, 24 00:01:03,839 --> 00:01:05,439 and maybe something that you can come back 25 00:01:05,439 --> 00:01:06,340 to and revisit. 26 00:01:07,024 --> 00:01:08,384 We didn't want you to have to feel 27 00:01:08,384 --> 00:01:10,304 like you had to wait, but that you 28 00:01:10,304 --> 00:01:13,024 could just dive in straight away. So today, 29 00:01:13,024 --> 00:01:15,664 we're gonna kick things off, and, I'm here 30 00:01:15,664 --> 00:01:18,304 with two wonderful people who've been walking in 31 00:01:18,304 --> 00:01:20,564 prophetic ministry for several decades. 32 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,500 They're mentors, teachers, 33 00:01:23,519 --> 00:01:26,640 very, powerful voices in this space, and many 34 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,200 of you already know Phil and Loralee Collie. 35 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:30,180 Welcome, guys. 36 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,799 Hey. Great to be here. This is so 37 00:01:32,799 --> 00:01:35,200 exciting. Yeah. Thanks for having us. Yeah. It's 38 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:35,700 great. 39 00:01:36,505 --> 00:01:37,005 Yeah. 40 00:01:37,545 --> 00:01:40,344 So we're all super excited about launching this. 41 00:01:40,344 --> 00:01:42,125 And, Yeah. And so 42 00:01:42,665 --> 00:01:44,585 why don't we start with a little bit 43 00:01:44,585 --> 00:01:46,585 of a recap and have a chat about 44 00:01:46,585 --> 00:01:48,924 what's been happening. You know, it's it's July, 45 00:01:49,784 --> 00:01:51,005 2025. 46 00:01:51,299 --> 00:01:53,140 We're sort of halfway through the year. What's 47 00:01:53,140 --> 00:01:55,219 been happening? What have you guys been up 48 00:01:55,219 --> 00:01:56,040 to this year? 49 00:01:56,659 --> 00:01:58,420 Yeah. We've had a really we've had a 50 00:01:58,420 --> 00:02:00,739 full year already this year. It's it's been 51 00:02:00,739 --> 00:02:03,140 it's been amazing. So what have we been 52 00:02:03,140 --> 00:02:05,140 up to? Lots of the We had a 53 00:02:05,140 --> 00:02:05,539 February 54 00:02:06,465 --> 00:02:07,444 we had a conference, 55 00:02:07,825 --> 00:02:08,784 which we have, 56 00:02:09,504 --> 00:02:10,644 pretty well every year, 57 00:02:11,344 --> 00:02:13,425 and that's, that was exciting. There's a lot 58 00:02:13,425 --> 00:02:13,925 of, 59 00:02:14,864 --> 00:02:16,625 there's a lot of great things happened there, 60 00:02:16,625 --> 00:02:19,640 and, we actually bought launched a book. We 61 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:21,560 launched a new book Yeah. Yeah. As well. 62 00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:24,040 Third book is it was launched in February 63 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,159 and, and, actually, at the conference. And that 64 00:02:27,159 --> 00:02:29,900 that that was exciting at the catchy updraft. 65 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,900 It, our book is called 66 00:02:32,825 --> 00:02:34,284 See the Signs and Wonders 67 00:02:34,585 --> 00:02:35,405 Yeah. Yeah. 68 00:02:35,705 --> 00:02:37,485 Prophecy, dreams, and 69 00:02:38,185 --> 00:02:38,685 numbers. 70 00:02:39,385 --> 00:02:42,185 That's that's awesome. That that's so exciting. And 71 00:02:42,185 --> 00:02:44,745 to launch a book is, is is, no 72 00:02:44,745 --> 00:02:47,030 small thing, and I'm sure those people that 73 00:02:47,030 --> 00:02:49,610 have, written books and launched books before would 74 00:02:49,750 --> 00:02:52,150 understand the effort and the time and the 75 00:02:52,150 --> 00:02:54,009 planning that goes into that. So, 76 00:02:55,110 --> 00:02:56,169 that's really awesome. 77 00:02:56,550 --> 00:02:58,550 And, do you want to just share just 78 00:02:58,550 --> 00:03:00,675 briefly a little bit, maybe one or two 79 00:03:00,675 --> 00:03:02,995 little things or gems that were covered in 80 00:03:02,995 --> 00:03:05,955 that conference just for people to maybe have 81 00:03:05,955 --> 00:03:08,514 an idea of what what maybe they missed 82 00:03:08,514 --> 00:03:09,875 out on if they didn't get to come 83 00:03:09,875 --> 00:03:12,514 along? Yeah. There was a general fee theme. 84 00:03:12,514 --> 00:03:15,330 Like, we had, our wonderful speakers, Faylene and 85 00:03:15,409 --> 00:03:17,409 and Patrick from Ireland, and there was a 86 00:03:17,409 --> 00:03:20,150 general theme on understanding our purpose 87 00:03:20,610 --> 00:03:23,409 and and, and and even being empowered for 88 00:03:23,409 --> 00:03:24,229 that, understanding 89 00:03:24,530 --> 00:03:26,770 God's view in that in that way. Yeah. 90 00:03:26,770 --> 00:03:28,615 How to move forward in that process. Because 91 00:03:28,615 --> 00:03:29,974 some of us we know what our purpose 92 00:03:29,974 --> 00:03:31,254 is, but we're not sure how to move 93 00:03:31,254 --> 00:03:32,235 forward in it. 94 00:03:32,615 --> 00:03:34,375 Mhmm. I think that's part of it. It's 95 00:03:34,375 --> 00:03:36,155 it's not just hearing, but we've gotta 96 00:03:36,534 --> 00:03:38,474 be able to apply what we hear 97 00:03:39,175 --> 00:03:40,875 so we can go to that next stage. 98 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,939 Yeah. No. That's very, 99 00:03:43,719 --> 00:03:45,719 very important to know how to apply those 100 00:03:45,719 --> 00:03:48,520 things. And and, Josh, you actually you you 101 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,860 did a session on on, and 102 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,520 as part of the book for the sea 103 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,360 of signs and wonders, you did a session 104 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:55,639 on that as well, and and we had 105 00:03:55,639 --> 00:03:57,375 so much feedback on it. There was Yeah. 106 00:03:57,455 --> 00:03:58,835 In some ways, your inaugural, 107 00:03:59,534 --> 00:04:00,034 prophetic, 108 00:04:00,735 --> 00:04:02,895 like, your conference speaking, wasn't it, in a 109 00:04:02,895 --> 00:04:04,194 way? You've always emceed, 110 00:04:04,574 --> 00:04:06,814 but never let you had to change your 111 00:04:06,814 --> 00:04:08,895 hat. Yeah. Yeah. It was a first for 112 00:04:08,895 --> 00:04:11,569 me, and I I really enjoyed the opportunity. 113 00:04:11,870 --> 00:04:12,370 And 114 00:04:12,669 --> 00:04:14,990 I I I believe people got something out 115 00:04:14,990 --> 00:04:16,930 of it and, found it helpful. 116 00:04:17,389 --> 00:04:19,649 So yeah. And that was very exciting and 117 00:04:19,709 --> 00:04:22,750 just a general great time to be able 118 00:04:22,750 --> 00:04:24,370 to help and to 119 00:04:25,925 --> 00:04:28,724 bring that message of that, you know, being 120 00:04:28,724 --> 00:04:31,845 prophetic and hearing God's voice is, it never 121 00:04:31,845 --> 00:04:33,604 goes out of fashion, and it's always something 122 00:04:33,604 --> 00:04:34,264 that we, 123 00:04:34,884 --> 00:04:36,324 that we need in our day to day 124 00:04:36,324 --> 00:04:38,245 lives. Mhmm. And, you know, with the see 125 00:04:38,245 --> 00:04:40,485 the signs and wonders book, we only printed 126 00:04:40,485 --> 00:04:41,144 a 100 127 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,279 hard copies because we know a lot of 128 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:43,779 people, 129 00:04:44,399 --> 00:04:45,459 do more ebooks 130 00:04:45,759 --> 00:04:47,759 and especially some of our audience and not 131 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:49,839 just not in just in person because of 132 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:50,819 our Zoom events. 133 00:04:51,199 --> 00:04:53,279 And but, actually, we've we we sold out 134 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:54,959 of those pretty quickly. We had to create 135 00:04:54,959 --> 00:04:57,625 a a second print, so it's now now 136 00:04:57,625 --> 00:04:59,625 in action. We're now Yep. Yeah, I've been 137 00:04:59,625 --> 00:05:03,144 releasing those. That's good. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Very 138 00:05:03,144 --> 00:05:04,985 popular. Very popular books. And, 139 00:05:05,944 --> 00:05:07,879 we're actually just on that. Actually, we'll come 140 00:05:07,879 --> 00:05:09,080 back to that later. We'll come back to 141 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,680 the book later. We'll talk more about that 142 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:11,500 at the end. 143 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,399 So let let's get started. Let's let's get 144 00:05:15,399 --> 00:05:17,960 into our topic today. So our topic for 145 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:18,460 this, 146 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,339 episode is what is prophecy, 147 00:05:23,314 --> 00:05:25,395 and how can I be sure God is 148 00:05:25,395 --> 00:05:27,655 speaking to me and through me? 149 00:05:28,194 --> 00:05:30,134 That's good. Good question. 150 00:05:30,595 --> 00:05:31,655 I like it. Yeah. 151 00:05:33,314 --> 00:05:35,875 So I might throw some questions over to 152 00:05:35,875 --> 00:05:36,615 you guys, 153 00:05:37,379 --> 00:05:39,939 and, and and let's just go into this 154 00:05:39,939 --> 00:05:42,660 topic and and, pull this apart a little 155 00:05:42,660 --> 00:05:45,220 bit. And, hopefully, as people are listening, they're 156 00:05:45,220 --> 00:05:45,939 able to, 157 00:05:46,740 --> 00:05:47,879 take something away 158 00:05:48,259 --> 00:05:49,160 where they can 159 00:05:49,735 --> 00:05:51,975 understand more about what prophecy is and and 160 00:05:51,975 --> 00:05:54,775 just develop that ability to hear God. Yeah. 161 00:05:54,775 --> 00:05:56,875 Mhmm. Yep. It's good. So 162 00:05:57,335 --> 00:05:58,555 what is prophecy, 163 00:05:58,935 --> 00:06:01,754 and and how is that different from, 164 00:06:02,410 --> 00:06:05,289 just being encouraging or hearing a message or 165 00:06:05,289 --> 00:06:06,029 some preaching? 166 00:06:07,610 --> 00:06:10,169 Yeah. I guess to clarify, we're probably talking 167 00:06:10,169 --> 00:06:10,909 more about 168 00:06:11,289 --> 00:06:13,069 one Corinthians 14 prophecy. 169 00:06:13,449 --> 00:06:15,194 So you could go you could say there's 170 00:06:15,194 --> 00:06:17,115 lots of different prophecy in the bible. There's, 171 00:06:17,435 --> 00:06:19,595 end time prophecy. There's, you know, that the 172 00:06:19,595 --> 00:06:21,675 whole bible is is a prophecy in a 173 00:06:21,675 --> 00:06:23,754 sense. But I guess what we I guess 174 00:06:23,754 --> 00:06:25,834 what we're talking about today is more the 175 00:06:25,834 --> 00:06:27,214 one Corinthians 14. 176 00:06:27,514 --> 00:06:29,134 One Corinthians 12 prophecy. 177 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:30,540 Yeah. Yeah. 178 00:06:31,639 --> 00:06:33,660 So it's prophecy is really 179 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,139 hearing from God for ourselves, 180 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,000 yeah, in in the topic we're talking about 181 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,319 here. And so how do we hear from 182 00:06:41,319 --> 00:06:44,759 God? It's prophecy is just hearing from God 183 00:06:44,759 --> 00:06:45,259 and 184 00:06:46,495 --> 00:06:48,834 and really becoming familiar with that, I think. 185 00:06:49,055 --> 00:06:51,935 And so and that's why it's important to 186 00:06:51,935 --> 00:06:52,435 practice. 187 00:06:53,615 --> 00:06:55,774 But prophecy is really just hearing from God. 188 00:06:55,774 --> 00:06:57,535 That can be in many forms. God might 189 00:06:57,535 --> 00:07:00,500 speak to you in a audible voice. 190 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,479 If that happens, it's probably going to be 191 00:07:02,479 --> 00:07:04,319 a bit scary because that's normally what happened 192 00:07:04,319 --> 00:07:06,240 in the Bible, but it could be a 193 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,500 spontaneous thought. It could be a 194 00:07:08,879 --> 00:07:11,139 picture in our mind. It could be a 195 00:07:11,279 --> 00:07:13,680 nudging on the inside, a sensing or a 196 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:14,180 feeling. 197 00:07:14,795 --> 00:07:17,035 So God might just speak to you through 198 00:07:17,035 --> 00:07:18,875 the bible, some verse jumps out at you 199 00:07:18,875 --> 00:07:20,154 and you think, well, I've never seen that 200 00:07:20,154 --> 00:07:21,134 before and it sort 201 00:07:21,915 --> 00:07:23,754 of stays with you. And so God is 202 00:07:23,915 --> 00:07:25,774 will highlight these things and oftentimes 203 00:07:26,475 --> 00:07:28,395 people say, well, God told me to do 204 00:07:28,395 --> 00:07:28,895 this. 205 00:07:30,129 --> 00:07:32,230 But as a general rule, it's not a 206 00:07:33,089 --> 00:07:35,269 big booming voice or, you know, 207 00:07:35,569 --> 00:07:36,870 a signpost that 208 00:07:37,250 --> 00:07:38,069 stands out. 209 00:07:38,769 --> 00:07:40,930 It's it's just a a knowing on the 210 00:07:40,930 --> 00:07:43,110 inside. So in a sense, it's 211 00:07:43,444 --> 00:07:46,004 it's that direct communication from God to the 212 00:07:46,004 --> 00:07:46,504 individual 213 00:07:47,925 --> 00:07:50,485 that that they recognize that as a way 214 00:07:50,485 --> 00:07:51,464 that God speaks. 215 00:07:52,324 --> 00:07:54,745 Mhmm. It's good. And might have different audiences 216 00:07:55,379 --> 00:07:57,139 in a sense. So it might have it 217 00:07:57,139 --> 00:07:58,980 might be just for I believe that as 218 00:07:58,980 --> 00:08:00,759 we activate the gift of prophecy 219 00:08:01,300 --> 00:08:03,620 that we can that we're activating hearing God's 220 00:08:03,620 --> 00:08:07,080 voice for ourselves, but we also might activate 221 00:08:07,220 --> 00:08:09,555 hearing God's voice for someone else 222 00:08:09,875 --> 00:08:12,134 with the with the right biblical guidelines, 223 00:08:12,754 --> 00:08:14,214 or we might be 224 00:08:15,074 --> 00:08:17,954 bringing bringing a message or a prophecy for 225 00:08:17,954 --> 00:08:18,454 a 226 00:08:18,754 --> 00:08:21,154 a group or a or a church or 227 00:08:21,154 --> 00:08:23,790 a, you know, a whole, you know, congregation 228 00:08:24,009 --> 00:08:26,410 dynamic or a movement even. So so, yeah, 229 00:08:26,410 --> 00:08:28,810 the it it's important to note that it's 230 00:08:28,810 --> 00:08:31,529 it's not just to one one area or 231 00:08:31,529 --> 00:08:32,350 one audience. 232 00:08:32,809 --> 00:08:33,309 Yeah. 233 00:08:34,330 --> 00:08:36,649 Yeah. That's some really good points. And I 234 00:08:36,649 --> 00:08:39,274 think, like like you guys were saying, that 235 00:08:39,274 --> 00:08:41,034 it can just be as simple as a 236 00:08:41,034 --> 00:08:44,235 thought. And I suppose being humans, we can 237 00:08:44,235 --> 00:08:45,034 find that, 238 00:08:45,914 --> 00:08:48,154 easy to dismiss, or we might think that, 239 00:08:48,154 --> 00:08:49,754 you know, that's just a thought that we're 240 00:08:49,754 --> 00:08:50,159 having, 241 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,120 which sort of leads into the next question 242 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,259 I wanted to ask. 243 00:08:54,879 --> 00:08:57,679 How can someone tell the difference between their 244 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,860 own thoughts and the voice of God? 245 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,279 That's good. That's a good question. And I 246 00:09:03,279 --> 00:09:05,860 think that's something that everybody struggles with, Josh. 247 00:09:06,154 --> 00:09:08,495 Is it me or is it God? And 248 00:09:08,715 --> 00:09:10,955 I think the simplest way to understand that 249 00:09:10,955 --> 00:09:13,455 is to understand the very nature of God. 250 00:09:14,554 --> 00:09:16,174 God always encourages, 251 00:09:17,195 --> 00:09:18,254 builds us up, 252 00:09:18,919 --> 00:09:19,419 edifies 253 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,860 us, comforts us because that's his nature. 254 00:09:23,799 --> 00:09:25,799 And so if we understand the nature of 255 00:09:25,799 --> 00:09:26,299 God, 256 00:09:26,759 --> 00:09:28,360 you know, the Bible says God is love 257 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,379 and that's the basis of everything that, 258 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,299 involved with the prophetic, 259 00:09:34,044 --> 00:09:36,865 involved with God. It's all about his love 260 00:09:37,565 --> 00:09:39,485 coming through in what we do. And so 261 00:09:39,485 --> 00:09:40,705 the nature of God 262 00:09:41,165 --> 00:09:42,544 and if if it's 263 00:09:43,404 --> 00:09:43,904 usually, 264 00:09:44,524 --> 00:09:46,365 if the way that God would speak to 265 00:09:46,365 --> 00:09:49,070 us is is by his nature. So it'll 266 00:09:49,070 --> 00:09:50,209 be a gentle word 267 00:09:50,909 --> 00:09:52,129 as a general rule. 268 00:09:52,830 --> 00:09:53,889 Sometimes there, 269 00:09:54,669 --> 00:09:56,750 it can be different. But as for for 270 00:09:56,750 --> 00:09:57,409 the general 271 00:09:58,190 --> 00:10:00,345 congregation, for the one of a better term, 272 00:10:00,584 --> 00:10:01,884 it's it's a gentle 273 00:10:02,345 --> 00:10:04,125 nature of God that comes through 274 00:10:04,904 --> 00:10:05,644 to confirm 275 00:10:06,024 --> 00:10:07,404 that it's his word. 276 00:10:07,865 --> 00:10:09,704 And if if you if we give someone 277 00:10:09,704 --> 00:10:12,264 an encouraging word, we're not doing any harm 278 00:10:12,264 --> 00:10:14,504 anyway because people that's the nature of God 279 00:10:14,504 --> 00:10:15,480 to build people up. 280 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:17,959 We find in our training, that's one of 281 00:10:17,959 --> 00:10:19,639 the biggest things. Is it me or is 282 00:10:19,639 --> 00:10:22,199 it God? And and I think that it 283 00:10:22,199 --> 00:10:23,339 requires faith 284 00:10:23,959 --> 00:10:27,089 and and and practice because we get to 285 00:10:27,089 --> 00:10:29,825 know God it it's like, god speaks in 286 00:10:29,825 --> 00:10:30,404 a spontaneous 287 00:10:30,785 --> 00:10:32,565 thought into our 288 00:10:32,945 --> 00:10:34,245 own thought process. 289 00:10:35,024 --> 00:10:37,425 So that's the confusing part because it's in 290 00:10:37,425 --> 00:10:39,524 our own mind and our but it's spontaneous. 291 00:10:40,384 --> 00:10:43,350 So so we you know, the understanding of 292 00:10:43,350 --> 00:10:45,610 one Corinthians fourteen three, he he prophesies, 293 00:10:46,149 --> 00:10:48,870 speaks edification, expectation, and comfort. And as Phil 294 00:10:48,870 --> 00:10:52,070 already said, there are you know, God always 295 00:10:52,070 --> 00:10:53,370 wants to encourage us. 296 00:10:53,830 --> 00:10:55,545 I guess that that is one of the 297 00:10:55,545 --> 00:10:57,945 first things to be aware of. And and 298 00:10:57,945 --> 00:11:00,825 I think actually ourselves, we we're always hard 299 00:11:00,825 --> 00:11:03,065 on ourselves. We're we're, you know, people are 300 00:11:03,065 --> 00:11:05,065 their own worst critics most of the time, 301 00:11:05,065 --> 00:11:07,144 especially when we're, you know, wanting to hear 302 00:11:07,144 --> 00:11:10,070 from God and and and get encouragement or 303 00:11:10,070 --> 00:11:10,570 guidance. 304 00:11:10,950 --> 00:11:13,910 So I think that's, yeah, understanding the nature 305 00:11:13,910 --> 00:11:14,570 of God. 306 00:11:15,990 --> 00:11:18,470 And and actually and even because we create 307 00:11:18,470 --> 00:11:20,870 these environments where people come to practice. It's 308 00:11:20,870 --> 00:11:23,129 on Zoom or in our prophetic days. 309 00:11:23,430 --> 00:11:23,930 And 310 00:11:25,154 --> 00:11:27,554 the guidelines, as we said, as as, he 311 00:11:27,554 --> 00:11:30,774 who prophesies speaks edification, exaltation, and comfort. 312 00:11:31,955 --> 00:11:33,394 If you stick to that, the worst thing 313 00:11:33,394 --> 00:11:35,315 you're gonna do is bring a a, an 314 00:11:35,315 --> 00:11:36,690 encouraging word to someone, 315 00:11:37,169 --> 00:11:39,490 which probably is God anyway because it's the 316 00:11:39,490 --> 00:11:40,870 nature of God. Yeah. 317 00:11:41,970 --> 00:11:44,850 Yeah. Yeah. So that's sort of like the, 318 00:11:44,850 --> 00:11:47,029 like, I guess, the bibic the biblical 319 00:11:48,610 --> 00:11:49,110 guidelines 320 00:11:49,490 --> 00:11:49,990 of 321 00:11:50,375 --> 00:11:51,754 what prophecy is. 322 00:11:52,214 --> 00:11:53,835 Is that sort of what you're saying? 323 00:11:54,855 --> 00:11:57,495 Well, it it's the nature of God coming 324 00:11:57,495 --> 00:11:58,394 through. So 325 00:11:59,654 --> 00:12:02,475 it's more than that, but prophecy talks about 326 00:12:03,009 --> 00:12:06,230 our now, our past, our future. It foretells 327 00:12:06,289 --> 00:12:06,949 as well. 328 00:12:08,129 --> 00:12:10,069 But the night it always must come 329 00:12:10,929 --> 00:12:12,549 via the nature of God. 330 00:12:14,049 --> 00:12:14,289 God 331 00:12:15,089 --> 00:12:16,610 even when we, you know, we read things 332 00:12:16,610 --> 00:12:17,970 in the bible and you think, oh, well, 333 00:12:17,970 --> 00:12:18,470 God's 334 00:12:19,065 --> 00:12:21,225 it's a God of wrath there, but God 335 00:12:21,225 --> 00:12:23,144 has always given plenty of warning along the 336 00:12:23,144 --> 00:12:25,085 way before something happened. 337 00:12:25,465 --> 00:12:28,125 And our role as as, 338 00:12:29,945 --> 00:12:32,044 as people who hear from God, 339 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,759 we've got those guidelines to use as a 340 00:12:34,759 --> 00:12:35,500 as a reference 341 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,139 in one Corinthians fourteen three, edification, 342 00:12:38,519 --> 00:12:40,920 exhortation, and comfort. And if we stick to 343 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,759 that, we will follow the Bible on that 344 00:12:42,759 --> 00:12:44,860 basis. It's a safe place to be. 345 00:12:46,575 --> 00:12:48,414 And so I guess, like, the flip side 346 00:12:48,414 --> 00:12:50,174 to that would be if it's not those 347 00:12:50,174 --> 00:12:52,414 things, would would it be safe to say 348 00:12:52,414 --> 00:12:54,575 that it's probably not prophecy if it's not 349 00:12:54,575 --> 00:12:55,875 edifying and encouraging 350 00:12:56,894 --> 00:12:57,554 the person? 351 00:12:58,095 --> 00:13:01,075 If we're characterizing prophecy as hearing from God, 352 00:13:01,340 --> 00:13:03,120 which is which is what it is, 353 00:13:03,580 --> 00:13:04,080 sometimes 354 00:13:04,460 --> 00:13:05,440 the word prophecy, 355 00:13:06,299 --> 00:13:09,019 can suggest to to different people depending on 356 00:13:09,019 --> 00:13:11,360 their background that it's some really big 357 00:13:11,660 --> 00:13:13,500 thing that is, that no one else can 358 00:13:13,500 --> 00:13:14,000 understand. 359 00:13:14,384 --> 00:13:16,465 But, yeah, based on that, you know, God 360 00:13:16,465 --> 00:13:18,225 wants to speak to his people. Yes. It's 361 00:13:18,384 --> 00:13:20,325 it can be your your own 362 00:13:21,024 --> 00:13:23,904 understanding or your own voice condemning you because 363 00:13:23,904 --> 00:13:25,504 we are our own worst critic as I 364 00:13:25,504 --> 00:13:29,105 said. But also other people's voices or or 365 00:13:29,105 --> 00:13:31,620 other people's, you know, whatever that circumstances 366 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,419 or things of the past or even teachings 367 00:13:34,639 --> 00:13:35,299 and understandings 368 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,820 and maybe even the enemy trying to actually, 369 00:13:39,039 --> 00:13:39,779 you know, 370 00:13:40,399 --> 00:13:42,799 rob from you. That John ten ten says, 371 00:13:43,039 --> 00:13:44,639 you know, the enemy comes to rob, kill, 372 00:13:44,639 --> 00:13:45,700 and destroy. So, 373 00:13:46,105 --> 00:13:48,345 you know, he's at work to to disable 374 00:13:48,345 --> 00:13:51,404 you and and discourage you, not encourage you. 375 00:13:51,465 --> 00:13:53,144 And I think if we understand the nature 376 00:13:53,144 --> 00:13:54,285 of God as being, 377 00:13:54,825 --> 00:13:56,285 you know, the fruits of the spirit, 378 00:13:57,304 --> 00:13:58,044 then the 379 00:13:58,620 --> 00:14:00,220 the devil will come in and and, you 380 00:14:00,220 --> 00:14:02,379 know, wants to condemn and and make us 381 00:14:02,379 --> 00:14:04,460 feel guilty. And now you can't hear from 382 00:14:04,460 --> 00:14:06,299 God and, you know, all the all the 383 00:14:06,299 --> 00:14:08,320 downers, if you like Mhmm. 384 00:14:09,419 --> 00:14:11,500 That wanna detract from what God wants to 385 00:14:11,500 --> 00:14:12,720 do. And so 386 00:14:13,274 --> 00:14:15,514 if we it's understanding the nature of the 387 00:14:15,514 --> 00:14:17,195 enemy as well as the nature of God 388 00:14:17,195 --> 00:14:19,455 because that makes it easier to understand 389 00:14:20,154 --> 00:14:21,134 Mhmm. In speaking. 390 00:14:21,754 --> 00:14:23,915 Yeah. Yeah. No. That's good. I really like 391 00:14:23,915 --> 00:14:24,415 that, 392 00:14:25,115 --> 00:14:26,014 concept of 393 00:14:27,830 --> 00:14:30,009 aligning it with the fruits of the spirit. 394 00:14:30,230 --> 00:14:32,789 That that makes perfect sense because that's like 395 00:14:32,789 --> 00:14:34,470 you said, it's the nature of God. And 396 00:14:34,470 --> 00:14:36,169 so if God's speaking, 397 00:14:36,470 --> 00:14:37,610 it's going to be 398 00:14:38,274 --> 00:14:40,834 according to his nature, which is love and 399 00:14:40,834 --> 00:14:44,294 pace patience and peace and kindness, and and, 400 00:14:44,674 --> 00:14:46,774 God's always wanting to encourage us. 401 00:14:48,995 --> 00:14:49,495 So, 402 00:14:50,195 --> 00:14:52,214 another question I have is 403 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,220 we talked before about, 404 00:14:56,399 --> 00:14:57,700 the idea that, 405 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,019 God can speak to us, 406 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,279 just through, like, a simple thought or an 407 00:15:03,279 --> 00:15:04,660 impression or a picture. 408 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,720 I guess for a lot of people, and 409 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,500 I'd probably say myself included, 410 00:15:09,084 --> 00:15:11,164 is a lot of the time when we're 411 00:15:11,164 --> 00:15:14,044 receiving from God, it can almost feel like 412 00:15:14,044 --> 00:15:16,365 we're we're making it up, or it's like, 413 00:15:16,365 --> 00:15:18,445 am I just imagining this? Is this really 414 00:15:18,445 --> 00:15:18,945 God? 415 00:15:20,125 --> 00:15:21,745 What would you say about that? 416 00:15:22,125 --> 00:15:22,625 Mhmm. 417 00:15:23,330 --> 00:15:25,409 I I think some of that is that's 418 00:15:25,409 --> 00:15:26,389 definitely faith. 419 00:15:26,769 --> 00:15:29,250 Now faith is an uncomfortable zone and, you 420 00:15:29,250 --> 00:15:31,009 know, one of our what we call our 421 00:15:31,009 --> 00:15:34,289 activation scriptures, Hebrews eleven six, it's impossible to 422 00:15:34,289 --> 00:15:36,950 please God without faith. So when you're 423 00:15:37,964 --> 00:15:39,964 when you've got faith, you're you're saying, okay. 424 00:15:39,964 --> 00:15:41,584 I'm gonna ask God a question 425 00:15:41,964 --> 00:15:44,284 according to his nature. He's gonna respond to 426 00:15:44,284 --> 00:15:44,784 me. 427 00:15:45,164 --> 00:15:47,184 And and and and, therefore, 428 00:15:48,044 --> 00:15:49,105 also practice. 429 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:50,659 So, again, 430 00:15:51,519 --> 00:15:54,559 that's why it's so important that we, provide 431 00:15:54,559 --> 00:15:56,339 opportunity for people to practice 432 00:15:56,879 --> 00:15:58,500 because that's that's the 433 00:15:59,839 --> 00:16:02,000 that that's really the only way that brings 434 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,759 strength and and Mhmm. And you can do 435 00:16:03,759 --> 00:16:05,445 it at home, of course. You can practice 436 00:16:05,445 --> 00:16:07,524 at home. There's, you know, in a way 437 00:16:07,524 --> 00:16:09,865 of journaling, asking God questions and 438 00:16:10,245 --> 00:16:12,264 trusting his nature. Yeah. 439 00:16:12,644 --> 00:16:15,044 Yeah. And I think it's that that practice 440 00:16:15,044 --> 00:16:17,065 is key because it builds confidence. 441 00:16:17,970 --> 00:16:20,230 See, we we we we develop our faith 442 00:16:20,449 --> 00:16:21,189 by practice. 443 00:16:21,970 --> 00:16:24,129 The more we practice stepping out in faith, 444 00:16:24,129 --> 00:16:26,929 that will grow, and we become more confident 445 00:16:26,929 --> 00:16:27,990 not in our faith, 446 00:16:28,370 --> 00:16:30,129 but in that God will show up because 447 00:16:30,129 --> 00:16:31,189 he's done it before. 448 00:16:31,490 --> 00:16:33,009 And it's the same with anything that we 449 00:16:33,009 --> 00:16:33,509 learn. 450 00:16:34,184 --> 00:16:35,404 We learn to develop 451 00:16:35,945 --> 00:16:36,445 growing 452 00:16:37,304 --> 00:16:38,125 by practice, 453 00:16:38,504 --> 00:16:40,605 and that's why it is important to practice 454 00:16:40,904 --> 00:16:43,225 moving in spiritual gifts. We practice everything else, 455 00:16:43,225 --> 00:16:44,285 but we don't practice 456 00:16:45,225 --> 00:16:47,565 moving in spiritual gifts. And it's actually biblical, 457 00:16:47,625 --> 00:16:48,764 isn't it? Yeah. 458 00:16:49,389 --> 00:16:51,629 Hebrews five fourteen says it's by reason of 459 00:16:51,629 --> 00:16:54,049 use that our spiritual senses are matured. 460 00:16:55,549 --> 00:16:56,049 Yeah. 461 00:16:56,429 --> 00:16:58,909 Yeah. No. That's a really good point. I 462 00:16:58,909 --> 00:17:01,070 was just as you were talking about that, 463 00:17:01,070 --> 00:17:01,950 I was just, 464 00:17:02,495 --> 00:17:03,855 sorry. As you were both talking about that, 465 00:17:03,855 --> 00:17:05,154 I was just thinking about, 466 00:17:06,015 --> 00:17:08,434 when I first learned to drive a car 467 00:17:08,894 --> 00:17:09,394 and, 468 00:17:11,134 --> 00:17:12,595 like, I needed to practice. 469 00:17:12,894 --> 00:17:14,355 Like, it it was 470 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:17,680 for everyone's safety and my own safety that 471 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:18,900 I learned to practice. 472 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:20,799 Like, I didn't wanna go out on the 473 00:17:20,799 --> 00:17:21,539 main road 474 00:17:22,559 --> 00:17:23,619 without practice. 475 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,240 Yeah. We're practicing on the back streets. And 476 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,424 I guess in some ways, like, you you 477 00:17:28,424 --> 00:17:30,284 guys provide a space 478 00:17:31,144 --> 00:17:33,625 and a and a a place for people 479 00:17:33,625 --> 00:17:35,884 to to practice and to be trained, 480 00:17:37,384 --> 00:17:39,704 in a safe environment, right, where where it's 481 00:17:39,704 --> 00:17:41,224 almost like they're not gonna be put out 482 00:17:41,224 --> 00:17:42,744 on the main road just yet. We can 483 00:17:42,744 --> 00:17:43,019 practice 484 00:17:44,059 --> 00:17:46,180 on those little back streets or the side 485 00:17:46,180 --> 00:17:47,259 streets and, you know, where the where the 486 00:17:47,420 --> 00:17:48,960 maybe there's not so much pressure. 487 00:17:49,980 --> 00:17:51,580 Yeah. Do do you wanna share a bit 488 00:17:51,580 --> 00:17:52,240 more about, 489 00:17:52,539 --> 00:17:54,960 the importance of creating that safe environment? 490 00:17:56,154 --> 00:17:58,315 Yeah. Look, I think it's key, Josh, to 491 00:17:58,315 --> 00:18:00,734 have those safe environments where you can 492 00:18:01,195 --> 00:18:03,674 step out, have a go and learn to 493 00:18:03,674 --> 00:18:06,634 become more confident, learn to recognize how God 494 00:18:06,634 --> 00:18:08,174 speaks to you as an individual. 495 00:18:09,869 --> 00:18:12,369 And that will help us to develop that 496 00:18:13,150 --> 00:18:15,070 for whatever it is that we wanna do 497 00:18:15,070 --> 00:18:15,730 in life. 498 00:18:16,029 --> 00:18:18,750 Mhmm. Whether that's missions, run a business, you 499 00:18:18,750 --> 00:18:22,595 know, family relationships, whatever. It's it applies to 500 00:18:22,615 --> 00:18:24,595 everything. Yeah. Yeah. We've had, 501 00:18:25,214 --> 00:18:27,375 as you know, as many people know, we've 502 00:18:27,375 --> 00:18:31,154 run these prophetic schools for many decades now, 503 00:18:31,694 --> 00:18:33,315 since 1993. 504 00:18:33,615 --> 00:18:34,115 And, 505 00:18:34,549 --> 00:18:36,789 and and but it's it's interesting because we 506 00:18:36,789 --> 00:18:39,029 have so many different people come from different 507 00:18:39,029 --> 00:18:39,529 backgrounds, 508 00:18:40,069 --> 00:18:42,470 come through our schools, some stay and some 509 00:18:42,470 --> 00:18:44,809 hang around and wanna do it, many times. 510 00:18:45,029 --> 00:18:47,924 And there's business people and there's there's pastors 511 00:18:48,144 --> 00:18:49,684 and and there's, you know, 512 00:18:50,305 --> 00:18:52,384 people that don't know, think they have a 513 00:18:52,384 --> 00:18:54,164 call, but discover that they do. 514 00:18:54,625 --> 00:18:57,585 And so they that we we've had people 515 00:18:57,585 --> 00:18:59,125 say so many times, 516 00:18:59,664 --> 00:19:02,279 and and this always surprises me. They say, 517 00:19:02,279 --> 00:19:04,380 I feel like I've been born again again 518 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,080 because all of a sudden something's unlocked in 519 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:07,580 them, 520 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,180 and they've unlocked the prophetic gift. They've activated 521 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,619 it and practiced it. 522 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,680 And and yeah. So 523 00:19:15,615 --> 00:19:17,875 I think it helps to develop the relationship 524 00:19:17,934 --> 00:19:19,535 with God because we're seeing him in a 525 00:19:19,535 --> 00:19:22,335 different light. Mhmm. We're we're spending because we 526 00:19:22,335 --> 00:19:24,335 do a lot of activations in our schools 527 00:19:24,335 --> 00:19:25,875 and and our training days 528 00:19:26,174 --> 00:19:28,015 that we do a lot of activations, and 529 00:19:28,015 --> 00:19:31,080 that practice builds that relationship because we're spending 530 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,680 time listening to God and and understanding how 531 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,080 he speaks to us and, oh, you know, 532 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,640 I only get pictures. Well, I'm not getting 533 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,880 those anymore, but what I know, listen. Okay. 534 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,674 I'm gonna listen. And I might get a 535 00:19:43,674 --> 00:19:45,994 spontaneous thought. I'm get a sensing or an 536 00:19:45,994 --> 00:19:47,835 impression that I'm not used to that. So 537 00:19:47,835 --> 00:19:49,994 now I'm learning new ways to develop my 538 00:19:49,994 --> 00:19:51,215 relationship with God, 539 00:19:51,595 --> 00:19:54,075 like any human relationship. You know, the more 540 00:19:54,075 --> 00:19:55,375 time you spend with someone, 541 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,859 the better you get to know them. 542 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:02,480 And some people Sorry. Yeah. You go. Yeah. 543 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,480 Some people feel like, you know, are are 544 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,740 you focusing on just developing the gifts 545 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:08,180 on on the doing? 546 00:20:08,704 --> 00:20:11,025 But it actually doesn't doesn't end up being 547 00:20:11,025 --> 00:20:13,904 that we it's it's what we what we 548 00:20:13,904 --> 00:20:17,025 focus on is our relationship with God and 549 00:20:17,025 --> 00:20:20,565 and that the developing the gift by default 550 00:20:20,625 --> 00:20:21,765 causes us to 551 00:20:22,144 --> 00:20:24,599 hear God's voice, know how he speaks. So 552 00:20:24,679 --> 00:20:27,640 it's actually building relationship, not just building the 553 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:28,140 gifts 554 00:20:28,759 --> 00:20:30,679 that makes sense. It's not just one. Yeah. 555 00:20:30,679 --> 00:20:31,819 It's not just doing. 556 00:20:32,599 --> 00:20:33,740 Anybody can do, 557 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,380 but in the doing, you become. 558 00:20:36,759 --> 00:20:37,259 Mhmm. 559 00:20:37,575 --> 00:20:40,214 Yeah. So, you know, if you're if you're 560 00:20:40,214 --> 00:20:42,214 doing a trade, the more you do that, 561 00:20:42,214 --> 00:20:43,994 the more you become that tradesperson 562 00:20:44,454 --> 00:20:46,315 because you've developed those skills 563 00:20:46,934 --> 00:20:49,734 in that scenario. And it's the same here. 564 00:20:49,734 --> 00:20:51,974 Yes. We wanna build our relationship with God, 565 00:20:51,974 --> 00:20:53,434 but oftentimes, it's developed 566 00:20:54,019 --> 00:20:55,000 by doing things, 567 00:20:55,619 --> 00:20:56,119 hearing 568 00:20:56,819 --> 00:20:58,819 him, understanding what he's saying. How do I 569 00:20:58,819 --> 00:20:59,720 share that word? 570 00:21:00,099 --> 00:21:02,519 And and and being trained in those things 571 00:21:02,740 --> 00:21:04,819 to be able to bring that the right 572 00:21:04,819 --> 00:21:06,740 way. You know, sometimes we get a prophetic 573 00:21:06,740 --> 00:21:08,224 word and we think, gee, that was that 574 00:21:08,224 --> 00:21:09,765 was a great word, but it was 575 00:21:10,384 --> 00:21:12,484 it didn't it was it didn't come across. 576 00:21:13,424 --> 00:21:15,265 I wasn't comfortable in the way it was 577 00:21:15,265 --> 00:21:17,265 worded. Mhmm. It's not the word was wrong. 578 00:21:17,265 --> 00:21:19,125 It's the way it was delivered, perhaps. 579 00:21:19,585 --> 00:21:21,904 And so and sometimes we say, oh, that 580 00:21:21,984 --> 00:21:23,765 I don't like it. Not gonna 581 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,539 run with that. We'll just ignore it. 582 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,319 But sometimes it's just a lack of training 583 00:21:29,319 --> 00:21:30,220 perhaps that 584 00:21:30,599 --> 00:21:31,099 has, 585 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:32,700 that delivery 586 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,259 just hasn't been refined the right way. 587 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,579 Because God will often speak to us, 588 00:21:38,855 --> 00:21:41,015 to me anyway, it might be just a 589 00:21:41,015 --> 00:21:43,654 spontaneous thing. It might be just a point 590 00:21:43,654 --> 00:21:45,835 form scenario, but sometimes 591 00:21:46,775 --> 00:21:48,615 that's our job is to fill in those 592 00:21:48,615 --> 00:21:49,115 blanks 593 00:21:49,654 --> 00:21:50,475 in a prophecy 594 00:21:51,255 --> 00:21:53,275 so that it comes across and the delivery 595 00:21:53,335 --> 00:21:53,835 is 596 00:21:54,349 --> 00:21:56,589 is more acceptable, if you like, for the 597 00:21:56,589 --> 00:21:57,890 person receiving that. 598 00:21:59,549 --> 00:22:00,210 Mhmm. Yeah. 599 00:22:00,589 --> 00:22:01,309 Yeah. That's, 600 00:22:02,029 --> 00:22:04,130 some really good points there. And I think, 601 00:22:05,070 --> 00:22:06,509 you know, there has been a lot of 602 00:22:06,509 --> 00:22:07,009 people, 603 00:22:08,835 --> 00:22:10,454 in the past who've experienced, 604 00:22:11,154 --> 00:22:14,275 prophecy that maybe wasn't delivered in the way 605 00:22:14,275 --> 00:22:16,914 that it should have been, and and they 606 00:22:16,914 --> 00:22:19,795 have thrown that word out and said, oh, 607 00:22:19,795 --> 00:22:21,634 that's not for me, or that wasn't God, 608 00:22:21,634 --> 00:22:22,134 or, 609 00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:24,500 you know, that that that that doesn't apply 610 00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:25,059 to me. 611 00:22:25,779 --> 00:22:28,099 But it actually was God speaking, but it 612 00:22:28,099 --> 00:22:29,559 just it wasn't 613 00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:33,779 delivered in the right way or with that 614 00:22:33,779 --> 00:22:35,859 nature of God so that the person could 615 00:22:35,859 --> 00:22:37,044 receive it. So 616 00:22:37,424 --> 00:22:39,424 I guess what I'm hearing from what you're 617 00:22:39,424 --> 00:22:40,404 saying is that 618 00:22:40,944 --> 00:22:43,924 the delivery is just as as important as, 619 00:22:44,464 --> 00:22:45,204 the content. 620 00:22:46,625 --> 00:22:48,325 Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 621 00:22:48,625 --> 00:22:49,444 Yes. Definitely. 622 00:22:49,809 --> 00:22:50,789 Mhmm. Yeah. 623 00:22:51,490 --> 00:22:52,930 I think that's what brings a lot of 624 00:22:52,930 --> 00:22:53,430 misunderstanding, 625 00:22:54,289 --> 00:22:56,930 sadly, the, the way it's brought was it. 626 00:22:57,490 --> 00:22:59,490 And sometimes we can go, oh, that didn't 627 00:22:59,490 --> 00:23:00,309 feel right. 628 00:23:00,769 --> 00:23:02,529 And and we've had, you know, plenty of 629 00:23:02,529 --> 00:23:05,115 prophecies even recently in the past where where 630 00:23:05,115 --> 00:23:06,795 it hasn't been delivered as well as it 631 00:23:06,795 --> 00:23:08,714 could be, but but we're not gonna throw 632 00:23:08,714 --> 00:23:10,474 it out. We're gonna go, okay, god. What 633 00:23:10,474 --> 00:23:12,095 were you trying to say in this? 634 00:23:12,875 --> 00:23:14,954 But then but but if we're people that 635 00:23:14,954 --> 00:23:16,815 are just learning to receive prophecy, 636 00:23:18,109 --> 00:23:20,269 don't be concerned if you're if you do, 637 00:23:20,670 --> 00:23:23,470 have a question mark because god always brings 638 00:23:23,470 --> 00:23:23,970 confirmation. 639 00:23:25,070 --> 00:23:27,230 Mhmm. So there are times when we're gonna 640 00:23:27,230 --> 00:23:28,910 just go, okay. I'll just put that on 641 00:23:28,910 --> 00:23:31,234 the shelf and because it doesn't feel right. 642 00:23:31,454 --> 00:23:33,855 Or maybe that person was practicing. Because sometimes 643 00:23:33,855 --> 00:23:36,121 it can be what would seem like a 644 00:23:36,121 --> 00:23:38,734 a wrong prophecy or an error when a 645 00:23:38,734 --> 00:23:39,234 person 646 00:23:39,535 --> 00:23:42,654 is is, is is practicing their accuracy because 647 00:23:42,654 --> 00:23:43,714 we encourage that 648 00:23:44,095 --> 00:23:46,269 and sort of not brought quite the way 649 00:23:46,269 --> 00:23:49,150 it should be. And so sometimes it might 650 00:23:49,150 --> 00:23:50,450 not be a 651 00:23:51,549 --> 00:23:54,589 false prophecy, but may have just been brought 652 00:23:54,589 --> 00:23:55,089 incorrectly 653 00:23:55,390 --> 00:23:55,890 or 654 00:23:56,509 --> 00:23:57,869 not as good as it could have been. 655 00:23:57,869 --> 00:24:00,355 Yeah. Yeah. And I think the delivery, Josh, 656 00:24:00,355 --> 00:24:01,974 as you say, is very important. 657 00:24:02,994 --> 00:24:04,835 It's like anything, you know, you I know 658 00:24:04,835 --> 00:24:06,934 you're a teacher. You if you don't teach 659 00:24:07,394 --> 00:24:09,875 a certain way, people won't receive it. If 660 00:24:09,875 --> 00:24:11,335 you are harsh with the students, 661 00:24:11,875 --> 00:24:13,554 then they don't wanna receive it. They would 662 00:24:13,554 --> 00:24:15,200 rather, you know, hide in the corner or 663 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,519 do something completely different. It's the same with 664 00:24:17,519 --> 00:24:18,960 preaching. You know, if you don't you can 665 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,200 you can preach a great message or you 666 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,720 can preach the same message in a way 667 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,220 that's 668 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,460 pretty harsh to accept. 669 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,619 So we've got a our delivery, 670 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:28,420 again, 671 00:24:28,904 --> 00:24:30,365 represents the nature of God. 672 00:24:30,664 --> 00:24:32,345 Mhmm. You know, where if if it's a 673 00:24:32,424 --> 00:24:34,025 if the message, it needs to be brought 674 00:24:34,025 --> 00:24:36,184 with love and kindness and and gentleness to 675 00:24:36,184 --> 00:24:38,025 the people so that they can grow in 676 00:24:38,025 --> 00:24:39,244 whatever is being delivered. 677 00:24:39,625 --> 00:24:40,924 It's the same with prophecy. 678 00:24:43,089 --> 00:24:45,250 And and I I wasn't gonna go there 679 00:24:45,250 --> 00:24:47,569 in this episode, but I feel like it's 680 00:24:47,569 --> 00:24:50,390 sort of it's leading in that direction. So, 681 00:24:50,690 --> 00:24:52,130 you know, there's a lot of people out 682 00:24:52,130 --> 00:24:53,349 there who would say, 683 00:24:53,914 --> 00:24:56,234 you know, I I hear from God. I 684 00:24:56,315 --> 00:24:57,994 I'm I can do that. I'm very good 685 00:24:57,994 --> 00:24:59,994 at hearing God, and I know how to 686 00:24:59,994 --> 00:25:03,134 prophesy. So I don't really need to practice 687 00:25:03,274 --> 00:25:03,755 because, 688 00:25:04,714 --> 00:25:06,150 I already know how to do that. 689 00:25:07,509 --> 00:25:09,589 Would you would you say that based on 690 00:25:09,589 --> 00:25:12,150 what we've talked about and the importance of 691 00:25:12,150 --> 00:25:15,190 getting the delivery right that practice does need 692 00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:16,009 to take place? 693 00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:16,970 Yeah. 694 00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:19,769 We in our schools, we have very seasoned 695 00:25:20,265 --> 00:25:22,664 prophetic people come and practice because there's always 696 00:25:22,664 --> 00:25:24,904 something that God wants to develop. And and 697 00:25:24,904 --> 00:25:25,404 normally, 698 00:25:25,785 --> 00:25:28,525 by the time someone's quite seasoned, they understand 699 00:25:28,585 --> 00:25:31,224 the maturing process. In some ways, that's an 700 00:25:31,224 --> 00:25:33,305 immature concept to to to say, oh, I 701 00:25:33,305 --> 00:25:35,549 don't need I don't need that practice. But 702 00:25:35,549 --> 00:25:37,470 then when someone matures, they go, oh, wow. 703 00:25:37,470 --> 00:25:39,730 I just wanna be in that environment because 704 00:25:39,950 --> 00:25:42,109 because, you know, I can develop so much 705 00:25:42,109 --> 00:25:43,650 more accuracy and understanding 706 00:25:44,430 --> 00:25:46,589 of of, of of what God's saying and 707 00:25:46,589 --> 00:25:48,349 doing. You know, I think that's important in 708 00:25:48,349 --> 00:25:51,014 this hour, in this time in history because, 709 00:25:51,494 --> 00:25:53,434 God wants people to be so confident. 710 00:25:53,734 --> 00:25:55,914 And he also wants to develop our spiritual 711 00:25:55,974 --> 00:25:58,615 authority. So that comes into place as well 712 00:25:58,615 --> 00:25:59,014 as we, 713 00:25:59,575 --> 00:26:02,694 as we position ourselves to hear God's voice 714 00:26:02,694 --> 00:26:04,075 and practice hearing him. 715 00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:06,660 I think, I think whatever we do in 716 00:26:06,660 --> 00:26:09,539 God requires practice. Mhmm. You know, the the 717 00:26:09,539 --> 00:26:11,480 bible talks about practice. 718 00:26:12,259 --> 00:26:14,980 Practice spiritual gifts, desire spiritual gifts, but especially 719 00:26:14,980 --> 00:26:16,759 that you may prophesy. Well, 720 00:26:17,164 --> 00:26:19,804 that takes practice. Mhmm. It talks about developing 721 00:26:19,804 --> 00:26:21,804 the gift, and it doesn't matter how 722 00:26:23,085 --> 00:26:24,784 I think we all need to be teachable 723 00:26:24,845 --> 00:26:26,924 all the time. There's always something we can 724 00:26:26,924 --> 00:26:29,085 learn. You know, we might hear this preacher 725 00:26:29,085 --> 00:26:30,625 talking about a particular subject, 726 00:26:31,724 --> 00:26:33,720 but he's only got part of the truth. 727 00:26:35,059 --> 00:26:36,920 Someone else will have some things that 728 00:26:37,700 --> 00:26:39,380 they might say exactly the same things, but 729 00:26:39,380 --> 00:26:40,819 I get it from this guy because of 730 00:26:40,819 --> 00:26:41,720 what he said, 731 00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:44,179 but I didn't quite catch it there because 732 00:26:44,179 --> 00:26:46,644 I'm still growing in that particular thing. And 733 00:26:46,644 --> 00:26:48,744 it's the same with anything that we do. 734 00:26:48,804 --> 00:26:51,144 We need to be open to be continued 735 00:26:51,605 --> 00:26:52,424 to be taught 736 00:26:53,125 --> 00:26:54,964 because there's always something more that we can 737 00:26:54,964 --> 00:26:55,464 learn. 738 00:26:56,325 --> 00:26:57,845 We can learn from people. We can learn 739 00:26:57,845 --> 00:26:59,444 from God. We can, you know, we can 740 00:26:59,444 --> 00:26:59,944 develop 741 00:27:00,325 --> 00:27:02,265 our spiritual gifts. We can develop 742 00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:04,319 growing in the fruit of the spirit 743 00:27:04,779 --> 00:27:06,399 because none of us have made it. 744 00:27:07,259 --> 00:27:10,140 There's always more. Yeah. Yeah. And I I 745 00:27:10,140 --> 00:27:10,960 think, like, 746 00:27:11,980 --> 00:27:14,079 you know, in in terms of, 747 00:27:15,019 --> 00:27:17,440 because you because you guys do training, 748 00:27:18,994 --> 00:27:21,714 like, in in in other areas of life, 749 00:27:21,714 --> 00:27:23,734 you know, if someone was to go to, 750 00:27:23,954 --> 00:27:24,775 say, university 751 00:27:25,154 --> 00:27:26,914 or something like that or they went and 752 00:27:26,914 --> 00:27:29,075 did a course, you know, they might only 753 00:27:29,075 --> 00:27:30,755 do that once, and then they go, oh, 754 00:27:30,755 --> 00:27:32,730 I've got that. I don't need to go 755 00:27:32,730 --> 00:27:34,269 back and do that again. But 756 00:27:34,970 --> 00:27:36,809 but for you guys, it's like you seem 757 00:27:36,809 --> 00:27:37,470 to get, 758 00:27:37,849 --> 00:27:39,710 people that have done your training, 759 00:27:41,049 --> 00:27:42,509 and they'll come back again, 760 00:27:43,049 --> 00:27:45,585 go through the training again, come back again, 761 00:27:45,585 --> 00:27:47,664 go through the training again. And so there 762 00:27:47,664 --> 00:27:50,065 doesn't seem to be this, I've been there, 763 00:27:50,065 --> 00:27:51,845 done that, don't need to do it again. 764 00:27:53,744 --> 00:27:55,744 And I guess as I think about that, 765 00:27:55,744 --> 00:27:57,880 it's sort of like, you know, in in 766 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,799 other areas of life where we do, like, 767 00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:02,279 a course or whatever it may be, it's 768 00:28:02,279 --> 00:28:03,960 sort of like we're filling our head with 769 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,519 a lot of knowledge, isn't it? But but 770 00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:07,740 what you guys do, 771 00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:09,339 it's very practical. 772 00:28:09,799 --> 00:28:10,299 Mhmm. 773 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,480 So I guess 774 00:28:12,279 --> 00:28:14,005 do you wanna talk a bit about 775 00:28:14,704 --> 00:28:17,204 the importance of that and, I guess, how 776 00:28:17,744 --> 00:28:19,424 maybe what you do is a little bit 777 00:28:19,424 --> 00:28:20,325 different to, 778 00:28:20,625 --> 00:28:21,284 I guess, 779 00:28:22,144 --> 00:28:23,904 the way other people have done things in 780 00:28:23,904 --> 00:28:24,565 the past? 781 00:28:25,460 --> 00:28:27,140 We like to have a practical side to 782 00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:28,519 whatever we do, Josh. 783 00:28:28,980 --> 00:28:29,799 And so 784 00:28:30,420 --> 00:28:31,859 and and as I was saying, where there's 785 00:28:31,859 --> 00:28:33,700 always something else to learn, there's always some 786 00:28:33,700 --> 00:28:35,400 way to improve what we're doing 787 00:28:36,180 --> 00:28:39,140 and to be able to recognize God speaking 788 00:28:39,140 --> 00:28:41,134 to us in another form. God talks to 789 00:28:41,134 --> 00:28:42,534 us all the time. You know, we we 790 00:28:42,534 --> 00:28:44,454 don't read the bible once and say, I've 791 00:28:44,454 --> 00:28:46,134 read that. Oh, I know that. I read 792 00:28:46,134 --> 00:28:47,674 that before. It's 793 00:28:48,054 --> 00:28:49,414 we might have read it, but have we 794 00:28:49,414 --> 00:28:51,815 actually applied it the right way? Have we 795 00:28:53,220 --> 00:28:55,799 are we fully understanding of what they're saying? 796 00:28:56,099 --> 00:28:57,700 And I think it's the same here that 797 00:28:57,700 --> 00:28:58,919 the practical application 798 00:28:59,859 --> 00:29:02,119 helps us to grow and develop our relationship, 799 00:29:02,179 --> 00:29:03,559 as we talked about before, 800 00:29:03,940 --> 00:29:05,865 so that we are growing to be those 801 00:29:05,865 --> 00:29:08,265 better people. We're growing to in our knowledge 802 00:29:08,265 --> 00:29:10,025 and understanding of who God is and the 803 00:29:10,025 --> 00:29:13,325 nature of God. Mhmm. Mhmm. I think practicing 804 00:29:13,545 --> 00:29:16,204 spiritual gifts in general, which gift of prophecy 805 00:29:16,505 --> 00:29:18,664 is. It's part of the one Corinthians 12 806 00:29:18,664 --> 00:29:20,424 as well, that words of knowledge, words of 807 00:29:20,424 --> 00:29:20,924 wisdom, 808 00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:24,240 gift of discerning of spirit. I I think 809 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:24,559 it's, 810 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,679 people always come alive when they're when they 811 00:29:27,679 --> 00:29:29,059 find themselves in the room 812 00:29:29,519 --> 00:29:32,000 and and discover it's actually not just for 813 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,099 a chosen few that that have the stage. 814 00:29:34,335 --> 00:29:37,474 It's actually for the everyday person, everyday believer 815 00:29:37,934 --> 00:29:38,595 to develop 816 00:29:38,974 --> 00:29:40,355 these all these gifts. 817 00:29:40,734 --> 00:29:42,894 And and and again, it opens the access 818 00:29:42,894 --> 00:29:43,554 to God. 819 00:29:43,855 --> 00:29:44,894 And and so, 820 00:29:45,454 --> 00:29:47,375 you know, we love to part of our 821 00:29:47,375 --> 00:29:50,460 mandate is providing that opportunity to just come 822 00:29:50,460 --> 00:29:52,160 and practice, be honed, 823 00:29:52,779 --> 00:29:54,859 you know, and we met we have many 824 00:29:54,859 --> 00:29:56,619 conversations with people in the way of, you 825 00:29:56,619 --> 00:29:58,220 know, I I felt I had a prophecy 826 00:29:58,220 --> 00:29:59,820 and I tried to deliver it this way 827 00:29:59,820 --> 00:30:02,380 or something was misunderstood. And and so, you 828 00:30:02,380 --> 00:30:03,900 know, all those sort of stuff can be 829 00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:04,400 workshopped. 830 00:30:04,964 --> 00:30:07,365 And, and, you know, and even I'll I'll 831 00:30:07,365 --> 00:30:08,724 throw in a few things here that we're 832 00:30:08,724 --> 00:30:10,964 gonna we're going to cover in in in 833 00:30:10,964 --> 00:30:13,525 the future. Like things like it felt like 834 00:30:13,525 --> 00:30:15,285 that person was soul reading or it felt 835 00:30:15,285 --> 00:30:17,044 like there was a bit of witchcraft involved, 836 00:30:17,044 --> 00:30:19,065 even though they're Christians. What does that mean? 837 00:30:19,204 --> 00:30:19,944 And so 838 00:30:20,779 --> 00:30:22,880 we workshop that in our in our training, 839 00:30:23,099 --> 00:30:24,539 and we will talk a little bit about 840 00:30:24,539 --> 00:30:26,059 it in the future, the pitfalls and the 841 00:30:26,059 --> 00:30:27,200 problems that happen. 842 00:30:27,659 --> 00:30:29,440 But, yeah, it's, it 843 00:30:29,980 --> 00:30:32,220 it's it's a safe environment for you to 844 00:30:32,220 --> 00:30:32,720 practice. 845 00:30:35,065 --> 00:30:35,724 Yeah. Well, 846 00:30:36,345 --> 00:30:37,325 I I think that's, 847 00:30:38,105 --> 00:30:40,525 I think we've covered that really well. And 848 00:30:41,144 --> 00:30:43,224 I think for those who are going to 849 00:30:43,224 --> 00:30:44,525 listen to this episode, 850 00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:48,039 they walk away with an understanding that, that 851 00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:49,720 they can hear from God, that it is 852 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,640 for every person. It's not just for a 853 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,220 select few, and that it actually does require 854 00:30:54,359 --> 00:30:55,500 a level of training, 855 00:30:56,679 --> 00:30:58,140 to be able to do it effectively. 856 00:30:58,595 --> 00:30:59,894 And, I guess that's, 857 00:31:00,195 --> 00:31:02,134 you know, the the message here. 858 00:31:03,634 --> 00:31:04,134 So 859 00:31:04,434 --> 00:31:05,414 moving along, 860 00:31:06,434 --> 00:31:08,994 what what's coming up? Have you got any 861 00:31:08,994 --> 00:31:11,009 events or anything planned for the rest of 862 00:31:11,009 --> 00:31:12,869 the year? Anything exciting? 863 00:31:13,330 --> 00:31:15,410 Yeah. So we run very regular. 864 00:31:15,890 --> 00:31:17,570 For four to five times a year, we 865 00:31:17,570 --> 00:31:17,970 run, 866 00:31:18,450 --> 00:31:20,230 our prophetic development days. 867 00:31:20,690 --> 00:31:23,009 And, and so you can opt in at 868 00:31:23,009 --> 00:31:25,304 any time. In the past, we've had we've 869 00:31:25,304 --> 00:31:26,744 had a school dynamic where you had to 870 00:31:26,744 --> 00:31:28,024 be at the beginning and the end of 871 00:31:28,024 --> 00:31:30,024 the school, but now we've changed the format 872 00:31:30,024 --> 00:31:32,105 where you can you can opt in at 873 00:31:32,105 --> 00:31:33,625 any time. So we've got a couple more 874 00:31:33,625 --> 00:31:35,724 of those coming up in 2025, 875 00:31:36,024 --> 00:31:38,105 and then they'll then we'll gear up then 876 00:31:38,105 --> 00:31:38,904 for our, 877 00:31:39,589 --> 00:31:42,490 catch the up draft in February in 2026. 878 00:31:42,549 --> 00:31:44,789 That'll be exciting as it always is. And 879 00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:47,190 yeah. And we do regular Zoom nights as 880 00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:48,869 well, so we can jump on Zoom. So 881 00:31:48,869 --> 00:31:50,390 if people are at home, they can they 882 00:31:50,390 --> 00:31:51,750 don't have to go anywhere. They can just 883 00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:54,250 jump on Zoom and and be part of 884 00:31:54,825 --> 00:31:56,744 the the teaching and training in that form 885 00:31:56,744 --> 00:31:58,984 as well. And, we have people from all 886 00:31:58,984 --> 00:32:00,984 over the world who jump on. Mhmm. And, 887 00:32:01,704 --> 00:32:03,644 yeah. So it's a good way to to 888 00:32:04,825 --> 00:32:06,184 come and have a taste, I guess, for 889 00:32:06,184 --> 00:32:08,524 the want of a better term. Mhmm. Mhmm. 890 00:32:09,019 --> 00:32:11,279 Yeah. Being able to practice on Zoom is, 891 00:32:11,980 --> 00:32:13,599 very wonderful and 892 00:32:14,059 --> 00:32:15,519 being just the accessibility 893 00:32:15,899 --> 00:32:18,159 for people to come in and join and 894 00:32:18,460 --> 00:32:19,179 and to, 895 00:32:19,579 --> 00:32:21,674 yeah, just to continue to practice. But I 896 00:32:21,674 --> 00:32:23,194 think also the the, 897 00:32:23,994 --> 00:32:26,894 those, like, development days where people come together 898 00:32:27,434 --> 00:32:29,595 face to face and spend a whole day 899 00:32:29,595 --> 00:32:30,734 practicing together, 900 00:32:31,994 --> 00:32:33,375 really does bring 901 00:32:33,755 --> 00:32:36,680 a lot out and and helps that growth. 902 00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:39,319 So I'm excited about, 903 00:32:40,339 --> 00:32:40,980 the next, 904 00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:45,000 Prophetic Development Day, thinking in August, isn't it? 905 00:32:45,940 --> 00:32:47,079 Yes. Yeah. 906 00:32:47,380 --> 00:32:49,619 In August. Yep. Yeah. And then again in 907 00:32:49,619 --> 00:32:50,119 November. 908 00:32:50,464 --> 00:32:52,785 Yeah. Yeah. And so if people wanna come 909 00:32:52,785 --> 00:32:54,704 along to any of those things like the 910 00:32:54,704 --> 00:32:57,045 face to face development days or they wanna 911 00:32:57,265 --> 00:32:59,265 join in on one of the Zoom sessions 912 00:32:59,265 --> 00:33:00,325 and have a practice, 913 00:33:01,744 --> 00:33:04,005 how how might they, do that? 914 00:33:04,849 --> 00:33:07,009 So there should be links with, with this 915 00:33:07,009 --> 00:33:07,509 recording, 916 00:33:07,970 --> 00:33:08,450 and, 917 00:33:08,930 --> 00:33:12,289 go to our website, destinystrategies.com.au, 918 00:33:12,289 --> 00:33:13,349 or our Facebook, 919 00:33:14,049 --> 00:33:14,950 Destiny Strategies. 920 00:33:15,410 --> 00:33:17,890 Yeah. Find any of those, whatever you're familiar 921 00:33:17,890 --> 00:33:20,554 with, and, yeah, follow the links. Let us 922 00:33:20,554 --> 00:33:22,714 know, and we'll you'll get the link, and 923 00:33:22,714 --> 00:33:23,774 you can join in. 924 00:33:24,875 --> 00:33:25,934 Awesome. Yeah. 925 00:33:26,474 --> 00:33:29,534 And so at the beginning of this episode, 926 00:33:29,595 --> 00:33:31,454 we touched on the, 927 00:33:31,994 --> 00:33:34,390 the book, the launch of a new book. 928 00:33:35,730 --> 00:33:37,650 Let's just spend a little bit more time 929 00:33:37,650 --> 00:33:39,970 just before we finish this episode talking about 930 00:33:39,970 --> 00:33:40,710 that book. 931 00:33:42,130 --> 00:33:43,589 What what sort of 932 00:33:45,545 --> 00:33:48,444 prompted you to to launch this book? 933 00:33:50,184 --> 00:33:51,785 It was it was a I it was 934 00:33:51,785 --> 00:33:53,944 an understanding that the format needed to be 935 00:33:53,944 --> 00:33:55,804 changed and and accessibility. 936 00:33:56,105 --> 00:33:57,625 So in the past, we had a had 937 00:33:57,625 --> 00:34:00,640 a prophetic activation school part one, two, and 938 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,119 three, where many listeners have have been a 939 00:34:03,119 --> 00:34:04,880 part of that in the past. But now 940 00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:06,179 but but the accessibility, 941 00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:08,719 like I said, you can you can continue 942 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,579 in our prophetic development days 943 00:34:11,175 --> 00:34:11,675 and, 944 00:34:12,295 --> 00:34:14,295 and and opt in at any time. But 945 00:34:14,295 --> 00:34:15,515 the theory component 946 00:34:16,375 --> 00:34:17,114 is now 947 00:34:17,655 --> 00:34:20,215 in this book of the prophetic, but then 948 00:34:20,215 --> 00:34:21,994 also our dream manual 949 00:34:22,295 --> 00:34:24,614 and our, you know, the we had many 950 00:34:24,614 --> 00:34:25,835 years ago had dream 951 00:34:26,420 --> 00:34:28,119 CD sets. Thanks. Yeah. 952 00:34:28,660 --> 00:34:29,619 So that's all, 953 00:34:29,940 --> 00:34:31,320 now in the book 954 00:34:31,619 --> 00:34:33,480 as well as Josh's book, 955 00:34:34,340 --> 00:34:36,440 Hearing Guide Through Numbers. Yeah. 956 00:34:37,539 --> 00:34:39,619 Yeah. So there's a lot of content in 957 00:34:39,619 --> 00:34:40,119 there. 958 00:34:41,324 --> 00:34:43,005 It's almost like you've got, 959 00:34:43,484 --> 00:34:45,984 the the dreams manual. You've got, 960 00:34:47,005 --> 00:34:49,824 content from what was, a manual from, 961 00:34:50,284 --> 00:34:51,344 prophetic activation 962 00:34:51,644 --> 00:34:52,144 school 963 00:34:52,525 --> 00:34:53,425 as well as, 964 00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:56,839 some content there on, how to hear the 965 00:34:56,839 --> 00:34:58,779 voice of God through numbers. 966 00:34:59,319 --> 00:35:01,719 Yeah. So it's really almost like three books 967 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:02,699 in one. So 968 00:35:03,159 --> 00:35:05,880 it's really, jam packed with so many, 969 00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:08,599 gems and bits of revelation, and also, like, 970 00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:11,534 just practical tips, which is, you know, it's 971 00:35:11,534 --> 00:35:13,875 not all just about revelation. It's about, 972 00:35:14,735 --> 00:35:16,594 how how do I apply these things. 973 00:35:17,054 --> 00:35:19,454 Yes. Yeah. So We've had so many so 974 00:35:19,454 --> 00:35:21,054 much good response on it. We've had so 975 00:35:21,054 --> 00:35:23,230 many people just say, wow. This is the 976 00:35:23,230 --> 00:35:24,910 the way the big the book is written. 977 00:35:24,910 --> 00:35:26,590 Because it's not in manual form any longer. 978 00:35:26,590 --> 00:35:28,590 It's in a in narrative or I think 979 00:35:28,590 --> 00:35:30,989 they call it narrative form or conversation form 980 00:35:30,989 --> 00:35:32,349 of how to you know, the way you 981 00:35:32,349 --> 00:35:34,030 read a book. Yeah. And and so many 982 00:35:34,030 --> 00:35:35,789 people said, wow. This is my this is 983 00:35:35,789 --> 00:35:38,224 my new go to textbook. I've read I've 984 00:35:38,224 --> 00:35:39,905 read it from cover to cover, but it's 985 00:35:40,144 --> 00:35:41,585 I just keep wanting to go back and 986 00:35:41,585 --> 00:35:43,265 check check this so I can apply this 987 00:35:43,265 --> 00:35:45,344 to my life. And and the feedback is 988 00:35:45,344 --> 00:35:47,344 amazing, and and people aren't buying one or 989 00:35:47,344 --> 00:35:49,445 two. They're buying six. And so it's like, 990 00:35:49,610 --> 00:35:51,210 not a not a lot of print, not 991 00:35:51,210 --> 00:35:52,030 a lot of print. 992 00:35:52,570 --> 00:35:53,230 Just great. 993 00:35:53,769 --> 00:35:56,110 Yeah. Yeah. Good problem to have is 994 00:35:56,570 --> 00:35:58,190 keep getting those printed. 995 00:35:59,050 --> 00:36:00,650 Yeah. Yeah. Well, I thought everyone you know, 996 00:36:00,650 --> 00:36:02,170 I I thought we lived in an ebook 997 00:36:02,170 --> 00:36:04,329 world, but I think, you know, especially because 998 00:36:04,329 --> 00:36:06,355 it's more a textbook in a way or 999 00:36:06,355 --> 00:36:08,835 a reference book, it's people probably want hard 1000 00:36:08,835 --> 00:36:10,755 copies so they can write their own notes 1001 00:36:10,755 --> 00:36:12,215 and refer back to it. 1002 00:36:13,555 --> 00:36:14,375 Yeah. Absolutely. 1003 00:36:15,235 --> 00:36:16,615 And and how do people 1004 00:36:17,539 --> 00:36:19,699 find that book if they want to have 1005 00:36:19,699 --> 00:36:21,219 a look at that or they wanna purchase 1006 00:36:21,219 --> 00:36:23,300 that? Yeah. So you can you can purchase 1007 00:36:23,300 --> 00:36:25,380 it on the website. The the ebook is 1008 00:36:25,380 --> 00:36:27,619 easy to get. But, also, if you wanna, 1009 00:36:28,420 --> 00:36:30,820 ask for a a hard copy, there's just 1010 00:36:30,820 --> 00:36:32,920 a we there's a price there with postage 1011 00:36:33,105 --> 00:36:35,925 and handling Yep. Added as well. 1012 00:36:36,224 --> 00:36:37,204 Yeah. Awesome. 1013 00:36:38,224 --> 00:36:39,204 Alright. Well, 1014 00:36:39,984 --> 00:36:42,545 this has been a really great start and 1015 00:36:42,545 --> 00:36:44,405 a a great first episode. 1016 00:36:44,945 --> 00:36:45,264 So, 1017 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,160 we hope that, you know, as as you're 1018 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,960 listening to this, that you are taking on 1019 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,700 all this 1020 00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:55,300 information and the tips and and just 1021 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,640 engaging with, what God is doing in this 1022 00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:58,965 space 1023 00:36:59,445 --> 00:37:02,005 and and understanding the prophetic in in a 1024 00:37:02,005 --> 00:37:02,825 deeper way. 1025 00:37:03,204 --> 00:37:04,965 Do you have any sort of last things 1026 00:37:04,965 --> 00:37:07,605 that you would like to say for those 1027 00:37:07,605 --> 00:37:09,465 that are gonna listen to this? 1028 00:37:10,885 --> 00:37:13,364 I think we're living in encouraging times. Be 1029 00:37:13,364 --> 00:37:14,105 be encouraged. 1030 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,920 And know I think a lot of people 1031 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,099 being stirred in hearing God's voice 1032 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,359 and and even not just for themselves, but 1033 00:37:21,359 --> 00:37:24,259 also that they would, you know, develop a 1034 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,639 even a proficiency that they know that they 1035 00:37:26,639 --> 00:37:28,559 know what God's saying and and can be 1036 00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:29,460 part of a community. 1037 00:37:29,864 --> 00:37:31,784 So, yeah, just to encourage you in that. 1038 00:37:31,784 --> 00:37:33,625 Come be part of our community. Yeah. You 1039 00:37:33,625 --> 00:37:34,905 can be part of it. There's a place 1040 00:37:34,905 --> 00:37:36,364 for you. Yeah. And 1041 00:37:36,664 --> 00:37:38,344 and look, we would just encourage you to 1042 00:37:38,344 --> 00:37:40,344 really understand the nature of God, I think. 1043 00:37:40,344 --> 00:37:42,184 If you understand the nature of God, then 1044 00:37:42,184 --> 00:37:42,684 that 1045 00:37:42,985 --> 00:37:44,284 helps us in every area. 1046 00:37:45,329 --> 00:37:47,750 Mhmm. Better being one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 1047 00:37:48,130 --> 00:37:48,630 Yep. 1048 00:37:49,410 --> 00:37:50,150 And so 1049 00:37:50,769 --> 00:37:53,030 with the end of this episode, 1050 00:37:53,410 --> 00:37:54,630 our next episode, 1051 00:37:55,170 --> 00:37:56,690 should we give them a little hint of 1052 00:37:56,690 --> 00:37:58,150 what we're going to talk about? 1053 00:37:58,474 --> 00:38:00,235 Yes. What are we gonna talk about? What 1054 00:38:00,235 --> 00:38:01,295 are we gonna talk about? 1055 00:38:02,394 --> 00:38:04,394 What are we gonna talk about? We are 1056 00:38:04,394 --> 00:38:06,255 going to talk about misunderstandings 1057 00:38:07,275 --> 00:38:08,094 of the prophetic. 1058 00:38:10,315 --> 00:38:12,094 Yes. Yeah. That's good. 1059 00:38:12,474 --> 00:38:14,094 Addressing some of those things. 1060 00:38:14,450 --> 00:38:17,010 Mhmm. Yeah. Comes up in conversation a lot 1061 00:38:17,010 --> 00:38:18,869 around our schools. It's good. 1062 00:38:19,490 --> 00:38:21,110 Yep. Thanks, Jess. Alright. 1063 00:38:21,410 --> 00:38:23,110 Thank you. Thank you. 1064 00:38:26,289 --> 00:38:28,684 If you got value out of this episode, 1065 00:38:29,144 --> 00:38:31,545 subscribe to the channel so you don't miss 1066 00:38:31,545 --> 00:38:32,765 out on what's next. 1067 00:38:33,224 --> 00:38:34,684 For upcoming events, 1068 00:38:34,985 --> 00:38:36,845 training, and powerful resources, 1069 00:38:37,385 --> 00:38:40,845 visit destinystrategies.com.au.