Welcome to Boundless Bee, the hemophilia bee podcast.
The podcast standing with you from a family
like yours, presented by the Coalition for Hemophilia
b and in partnership with Balancing Life's Issues.
This year marks the thirty fifth anniversary of
the Coalition for Hemophilia b, a milestone that
not only celebrates decades of advocacy,
education, and support,
but honors the people who have built that
community from the ground up. And I witnessed
that community firsthand.
From the moment I arrived at the Renaissance
Resort in Orlando for the symposium,
it was the little things that left the
biggest impression.
A child running to hug a familiar face,
parents chatting like old friends around a breakfast
table, and laughter echoing through the hallways. Everyone
was picking up right where they left off.
My goal was to capture those moments and
the conversations behind them. This episode brings together
voices from all corners of the community, new
families, seasoned parents, teens finding their place, and
the leaders and legacy builders who have guided
the way. At the heart of every story
though, the same foundation,
education,
connection,
and the belief that we are all stronger
together.
So join me today as we explore the
extraordinary impact of thirty five years, the annual
symposium, and how early connection can change everything.
For many families, the journey with hemophilia b
begins with confusion, fear, and a desperate need
for answers.
But through the Coalition for Hemophilia b, they
find not just education,
they find one another.
Just like I found Erica and her family
in line for a coffee. This is his
sister. Zaylee. Hi, Zaylee. And you are?
Liam. Say Liam. And, I guess tell us
about your connection to the hemophilia b community.
Yep. So I have hemophilia,
b. I have mild, and Liam has hemophilia
severe. And for those of us who are
listening, Liam is smashing potato chips in a
Mickey Mouse shirt.
And, and how about Zay?
I don't have have anything. I still have
to get tested. Okay. What's it like being
a sibling of someone who has hemophilia?
It's kind of crazy. It's kind of crazy
in what way?
You you worry about your brother a lot?
Yeah. When he's getting his infusions,
I make him not cry. That's great. That's
wonderful.
Older sister behavior. And how about you as
a caretaker of someone? Well, you have it
yourself. What's that like? Well, well, I didn't
know about it until I was 31 years
old. So when he was born, I found
out I had it after I got tested.
This story is so familiar to so many
families.
Diagnosis coming after the birth of a child
and coming to the realization that you or
your child have a rare bleeding disorder
and a sibling who has so many questions
and only just wants to help. So for
Erica and her family, it was about finding
the community that could help them navigate this
new version of life. We've been here every
year of his life, meet wonderful
people Yeah. Every year, get connected with a
lot of families, look forward to meeting them
every year back here, learn a lot, new
medicines coming out, current medicines,
things to do for infusions,
the future of hemophilia,
and so much more. Then there are patients
like Nathan, who have been diagnosed and part
of this community for over twenty years. And
for him, it's all about support. Yeah. I
mean, there's a lot of support within the
community. We really help each other out, especially
as new families. But when Nathan met his
now wife Angelina and they decided to bring
Amelia and Eleanor into their lives, Angelina was
nervous as she had no idea what hemophilia
b was and how that would affect their
family planning. And it was the connections through
the coalition that gave the two of them
the guidance they needed to move forward with
confidence.
Having our girls,
they are carriers, but it's been nice, like,
to kind of get, like, different point of
views and everything like that coming from, I
didn't didn't know what this was before marrying
him or, you know,
being with him. So it's just been very
informative. And as these moments create lifelong memories
for families, it all goes beyond your stereotypical
vacation experience.
It's a reminder that the days of kids
running around the hallways and pads are long
gone
because families have committed to education,
which has led to advocacy,
which has led to breakthroughs in research, science,
and medicine.
And as treatments for hemophilia b continue to
evolve,
education becomes a critical tool in transforming fear
into empowerment.
From new medications to gene therapy,
informed families are better equipped to advocate for
themselves and each other.
As treatments for hemophilia
b continue to evolve, education remains one of
our community's most powerful tools. But it's important
to remember no two journeys are the same.
And for those who share the common thread
of living with hemophilia b, they're each at
a different stage.
Some are newly diagnosed.
Others are learning to parent through uncertainty.
And then there are teens like Landon growing
into themselves, learning how to manage their condition
with confidence. Breakout sessions at the symposium gave
families across all stages a chance to explore
the latest treatment advances, ask questions, and discover
what might be possible for their unique paths.
And for Landon, that hope comes with a
growing sense of self assurance. I'm Landon. I'm
from Northwestern Pennsylvania.
This is probably
my tenth. Tenth? Yes. I've been here quite
a
bit. Very cool. So I And when it
comes to breakthroughs in science and medicine, success
stories like Landon's, who is 15, are showcased
because it's afforded him the opportunity to just
lead a normal life. And it's truly remarkable
how Landon's attitude about living with hemophilia b
is now so matter of fact. I mean,
it really doesn't affect me much. Get my
infusion once every two weeks, and then I'm
set. Kind of roll Landon's life is completely
different due to advances in medicine and his
ability to take care of himself, All things
attributed to the coalition. It's because my whole
life I've been surrounded by the community. For
teens and young adults like Landon, there are
plenty of opportunities at the symposium to connect
with those of a similar age group. But
Landon's entry to the community was outside of
the symposium and was actually through his music.
The beats music program. I make sure I'm
there. Oh, you're a musician? Oh, yeah. Me
too. My guitar is right over there. Dude,
awesome. And I'm there every year,
and I, like, I'll, like, get people's, like,
snap Chat or, like, their phone number. I'll
make I'll make sure that I'm in contact
with And then there are the parents like
Jasmine who have come to listen to Landon's
story in hopes that her own children will
meet and learn from others to find their
own version of resilience.
Not all teens and young adults are so
eager and comfortable as Landon to take this
on. Getting to know more people and I
didn't get it. Yeah. Getting to educate myself.
Yeah. Because I noticed you were asking questions
about your 13 year old and how they
manage it, maybe they hide it or They're
yeah. They don't really like to kinda talk
about it when they're hurt. So I think
it'll be nice for them to kinda meet
other kids and kinda get that experience and
maybe learn from them what they do. Because
I didn't have this when I was younger.
I found out when I was nine, but
I didn't know there was a whole community
out here. So I'm still kinda learning, and
it's been really nice. And as the coalition
brings the stories of its members together to
create connections around science and medicine,
it's also about myth busting.
We live in a world where doing your
own research can lead you down some dangerous
roads, and that's why the coalition makes it
a point to bring in specialists who have
turned having hemophilia into their life's work to
speak to the most groundbreaking treatments available like
gene therapy.
CJ Henson, I am the program manager for
Ohio State's, Hemostasis Thrombosis Center. I was diagnosed
at seven, was taken out of a bunch
of sports that I wanted to play. I
actually pushed away from the hemophilia community and
pretended that I didn't have it. So I
did all the things that we weren't supposed
to. I played tackle football on, you know,
backyard football. I played club rugby in college.
Did you tell your mom that you were
doing this? But this all caught up with
CJ when he had to have shoulder replacement
surgery, and that's when he grew close with
his medical team who encouraged him to instead
of trying to beat them, join them. And
now I just get to take care of
people that have my experiences and something, and
they bring their own, and we get to
talk through them and figure out how to
make their life better. We didn't have a
lot of the therapies that we have now,
which was a lot of the reason why
people got pulled out of stuff when when
I was young. Kids But CJ isn't here
to just speak to his own experience of
rebelling against treatment as a kid. He's here
to provide testimony to the success he has
seen with many of the new and exciting
therapies that are becoming readily available. We've been
waiting for this forever. We've made steps. It's
taken a lot longer than was hoped for.
But there's new therapies coming out all the
time, which, you know, lead us to continued
hope of there will be a cure at
some point. My name is Dominic. Right now,
I'm a junior in college. I'm studying film
and television. I was starting to get irresponsible
with doing my medicine. Just came at a
perfect time. My quality of life has been
great. I haven't needed prophy. I haven't had
any bleeds,
and I really just live with less on
my shoulders. If you would have told me
last year that I would be getting brought
out to Florida to speak to a bunch
of hemophilia, be patients, and share my story,
I would have never believed you. And it's
stories like Dominic's that remind us that we're
all human, and we just want to feel
the safety and strength of a community when
you know that you've been pushing the boundaries
of what your body can handle. Or in
the case of Michael, a life devoted to
activity and sport that new therapies are allowing
him to have. It even led to him
being written about in Men's Health magazine. Because
I was on demand at first, then I
switched to prophy treatment. And then even with
that, I was still having breakthrough bleeds. So,
you know, I don't like needles. So I'm
like, if there's anything that could just take
this away, I'm ready. So being in men's
health, it was really,
I mean, it was shocking, you know, leading
up to it. I was like, if I
can make men's health with just, you know,
advocating for my community
on top of having quote unquote muscles, that
would be awesome because that right there could
show you that, okay, you know, here's a
not something else you can do. Whether it's
okay. You're doing sports, but you were afraid
of weight lifting because, you know, the injury.
Well, here's someone who has a bleeding disorder
who trains with weights. You know who you
are as a person. Hemophilia isn't who you
are, it's a part of who you are.
It's you have to get uncomfortable. Make yourself
uncomfortable. Be a part of a family. No,
you're not, you know, by yourself and sky's
the limit, man. You see what I think
the quote is if you wanna go far,
go by yourself. If you wanna go further,
go together.
When it's your first year at the Symposium,
everything can feel new. New faces, new schedules,
new emotions. But in that newness, there's potential
for something truly powerful, transformation.
For Josh and Megan, attending the coalition's annual
event for the first time wasn't just a
chance to learn. It was a chance to
feel less alone.
From Denver, Colorado, they came with open hearts
and open minds, hoping to find connection.
What they found was a community that welcomed
them and their son, Reuben, with open arms.
Our youngest son, Reuben, he's four years old.
He has severe hemophilia b, and our other
two are ineffective. So it's great to meet,
like, new families. When I see someone with
young kids that are, like, similar in age
to our kids, it's been great to meet
people like that. No family history and nowhere
to turn. Something all too familiar for families
with a new diagnosis before they are connected
to the coalition. It was surprising we I
didn't even know what it was, really. I
had to Google it. Like, it was very
different from anything we'd ever been used to.
What led you to connect with community in
Colorado at that point? We actually we brought
him in because he had bruises, and they
ended up doing a blood test, and his
veins burst when they did that. And so
then he had a bleed, and then we
were in the hospital. And The journey to
a hemophilia b diagnosis is often marked by
trauma, unexpected bleeds, hospital visits, unanswered questions.
These are moments filled with fear and uncertainty,
and they shape families in lasting ways.
Fortunately, many are eventually pointed to a hemophilia
treatment center, often referred to as an HTC.
These specialized centers are staffed by teams who
understand hemophilia inside and out, hematologists,
nurses, social workers, physical therapists, and more.
That early connection is critical because the truth
is many general practitioners and emergency physicians receive
minimal training on how to care for someone
with a bleeding disorder.
Getting to an HTC as early as possible
can mean the difference between crisis and control,
and it lays the foundation for expert care,
informed decision making, and where your community could
start to grow. Our people there in Colorado,
those were the some of the first people
we met in Colorado, and,
they were just the people that we could
could talk to and Mhmm. Rely on. So
it was it was really good.
As parents, and your kids aren't even here,
so you can speak very
where are they? Are they, like, at the
youth camps? Yeah. The the day the childcare.
Yeah. Cool. What kind of emotions are you
guys experiencing just, like, being here and, like,
around these families?
It's actually kinda bringing me back to, like,
when we found out. I feel like we're
in a a much better spot now. We,
like, understand what it is. We have, like,
a, you know, treatment plan we're working on.
And, like, there's there's less unknowns, which is,
comforting now. Coming back here kinda brings you
back to, like, oh, yeah. That's what it
was like to, you know, have a two
year old or something
who has hemophilia or someone just starting out
or doesn't really have a great connection to
community. Stuff like this is, like, you know,
really helpful. Yeah. And, like, I don't know.
Just the importance of it. A reminder maybe
of how far you've come? Exact yeah. Exactly.
Let's do it for that.
So our youngest, Reuben, the one with hemophilia,
where he's four, I feel like he's just
starting to realize that, like, he's not like
his brothers. Like, he's asked questions like, why
don't they have to get infusions? And, he
went through a couple months where he didn't
wanna wear his medical bracelets. Like, none of
my friends wear a medical bracelet. Like, I
don't I don't wanna do this. Why do
I have to do this kind of thing?
And, we actually had to give him an
infusion this morning just, like, his prophy, like,
his regular infusions.
And we,
run into this little boy named Calvin who
has he met Ivy as well. He's here.
He's 10 years old, so he's a little
bit older. He's actually friends with my my
oldest son, Harvey. Mhmm. But they're both on
the same medication, and,
he needed to do an infusion this morning
too. So he invited us. He was like,
hey. Do you wanna do an infusion with
us? And so Reuben and Calvin went over
there, and Calvin, like, sat next to him,
and he was, like,
walking through all the steps. And Reuben was,
like, so excited to have somebody else there
with him.
And, like, usually, Reuben won't let us touch
him. He must be, like he's, like, numbed
it, like, all the way.
But, like, he didn't he, like, didn't want
the numbing thing. He was like, Calvin doesn't
do that. I don't want that either. And
so,
but, like, Calvin literally, like, held his hand
while I punched it in and he didn't
move. Like, he held still and, like, it
was Way different than how it normally is.
I mean, it totally is. Switch. It's okay.
I'm crying too. I know.
Like, you're not the only one. There's more
people here just like you, and you're just,
like, so excited. Like, they afterwards, they, like,
walked over and they, like, picked up prizes
together, and Calvin helped them, like, get breakfast.
And there was just, like, this connection there,
and it was so
that, like, made the whole trip worth it.
Like, everything
just for that one moment, it was it
was totally worth it.
One of the most beautiful things about the
Coalition Symposium
is that it gives space for all the
feelings.
One minute you're tearing up in the teen
lounge. The next you're laughing over lunch with
someone who just gets it.
When you come to the Symposium, you bring
all the hats you wear in life. Parent,
patient, partner, caregiver, you name it. And while
you're juggling all that, it's easy to forget,
you're an individual too.
That's why the Coalition offers dedicated breakout spaces
like the men's and women's sessions.
It's a chance to connect with people who
share not only your diagnosis experience, but your
day to day reality, to laugh, vent, and
maybe learn something new from someone who's been
where you are. And that's where I ran
into Mike and Ray from Toledo, Ohio. So
my wife is a carrier, and I have
two sons. My youngest has hemophilia. He's, mild.
My wife is a carrier. His wife and
my wife are sisters.
And then both my boys have mild hemophilia,
and then my daughter is a symptomatic carrier.
Okay. Good. So brothers in law? Yes. Alright.
Fantastic. Where where I'm trying to capture is
just the importance of the Coalition for Hemophilia
b and, I mean, this symposium specifically. Just
absolutely blown away by the connectedness with the
in the community, how much you learn. There's
a lot, around, like, advocacy. And so, there
was a really interesting man last year who
gave a a talk around how this is
your patient bill of rights, and this is
what you need to make sure you go
in, and advocate for because sometimes the doctors
will be wrong, especially if it's not your
normal doctors, if, you know, if you're traveling.
Definitely on our on our agenda to come
back every year and make sure we absorb
as much as possible and that we're doing
everything we're supposed to to be good caretakers
for our patients. What's it like to be
a dad to kids with hemophilia
b? That's why Mike and Ryan are here.
They didn't know.
But now they are caring for children who
do have it.
So they stepped up to the plate to
get involved and connected to their dads in
the community to learn.
Most of their lives without actually knowing that
they had hemophilia. It was, it was a
car accident that that, led us to finding
finding it out. But coming to a place
like this and meeting a whole you know,
everybody that we have and Yeah. Having all
the resources, it kinda helps acclimate you to
something that sounds really scary. But Right. But
when you have the information and the resources,
it is all it is reduced. Yeah. Yeah.
And I think what I'm learning as someone
who is very new to this, is just
this idea of how far the science and
the medicine and the technology has come. Stigma
of even having it Yeah.
Is slowly eroding, but that I feel like
it takes work. Yeah. I I think that's
that's that's a really great point. A lot
of the talks we have seems increasingly you
hear about, you know, kids don't have any
problem talking to their friends about it, and
it's just a very natural, normal thing. And
Yeah.
I think this this brings awareness. This makes
everyone more connected and make sure that it's,
yeah, it's not something in the shadows. And
as I walked around the men's session making
small talk and enjoying a drink, there was
a sense of relief among everybody there.
These moments to come together as the men
of hemophilia
only comes around a couple times a year,
so there's hugging and laughing and catching up.
It reminded me of a friendship. And it
was on the other side of the resort
where the women gathered to tell their stories
and reflect on their emotions of what it
means to be a mother navigating hemophilia b,
but also to pump one another up.
And it was during this session that I
witnessed a brand new mom gather up the
courage to stand up and tell her story
in front of hundreds of now new family,
to thank the women of hemophilia b for
being there for her at the hardest moment
in her life. My name is Tiffany. Yes.
So I have a three and a half
year old son named Jack who was diagnosed
with severe hemophilia b when he was two
days old. He had a circumcision that didn't
stop bleeding. So, obviously, when we took him
in to get looked at after a series
of blood work, it was he was diagnosed.
He was a spontaneous genetic mutation, so he
is the first one in our family line
with hemophilia b. Since that time, you've found
the Coalition for Hemophilia b. Can you just
tell
us about that experience? I know when we
got diagnosed, kinda how I handle any kind
of stressor is to dive in to, like,
information overload. So I read everything I could
about hemophilia,
did every Google search, like, found every Facebook
page. So I must have found it in
the blur. Mhmm. But since I'm in the
community, just been really really great in terms
of the programs and support. I really appreciate
how inclusive the community is in the planning
here. So our children are in the youth
camp right now. Yeah. And how they heard,
programs for them while we're here. So, we
can actually enjoy the content and -Do this.
-Absorb it but then throughout the year between
the women's retreat and the men's, different things
for the children.
It's it's been really great.
We've talked a lot in this episode about
connection, community, and education.
But there's one thread that ties it all
together, advocacy.
And while you might think of advocacy as
standing on a stage or meeting with lawmakers,
it can take so many forms.
It can look like sharing your story for
the first time or even running a booth
in the middle of a bustling hallway at
the symposium.
Now I didn't get a chance to interview
these next two voices during the event, but
we caught up shortly after. And they had
powerful things to say about the many ways
advocacy can spark change,
from visibility to education to the quiet, life
changing moments of one on one connection. For
the first time ever, the Coalition for Hemophilia
b launched a dedicated booth focused on women
with bleeding disorders. The booth titled Women Bleed
two was created to offer a space for
women to share their stories, ask questions, and
feel seen in a community where their symptoms,
like heavy menstrual bleeding, have often been misunderstood
or dismissed. The booth was staffed entirely by
women living with bleeding disorders themselves, including Jennifer
DeGloper, who's part of the coalition team and
lives with hemophilia b. Women have had a
really tough
road with the diagnosis of hemophilia and in
the hemophilia space. It's been only the last
few years that women are starting to be
recognized
as actually having hemophilia
and having bleeding symptoms and having bleeding problems
and then being able to get treatment.
Because this is inherited,
a lot of times within a family, there
will be heavy menstrual bleeding and it's just
typical. It's normal for them or nosebleeds
or some of the easy bruising, some of
the other symptoms. And they don't the women
haven't realized until recently that that's not normal.
It was amazingly important just to spread the
word and to have this conversation with women
who maybe have been blown off or have
been kind of discounting their own bleeding symptoms
when they actually do have a problem that
needs to be recognized and treated. And when
you bring voices together, the ones that leave
a lasting impact are often from the least
likely places. What was amazing is that the
men were also engaging, and the men men
wanted to talk about it too because a
lot of them have mothers, sisters,
daughters that are experiencing
the same thing. They're having bleeding symptoms that
are not going recognized.
Just that men were willing
to talk about heavy periods,
bruises and nosebleeds and everyday life for a
lot of these people. To have these conversations,
not only with the women in the community,
but with the men too. I know we
made a difference for several women in the
community that are now going to go back
to their doctors and have the tough conversation
and be recognized and
and treated. Jennifer's story is a reminder that
advocacy often starts with one simple idea. What
if we made space for this conversation?
And it doesn't just impact those at the
booth. It ripples outward into clinics, households, and
next year's symposium.
And then there's Bobby.
If you've ever met Bobby, you know he
brings equal parts wisdom, warmth, and wit to
every room he walks into. Bobby helped lead
the Coalition's advocacy booth this year, and what
started as a few whiteboards and markers turned
into something much more, a space for redefining
what advocacy really means. Many of the people
who came to the booth
gave either a dictionary
definition of advocacy
or the definition
based upon
their income source, which traditionally has been seen,
as advocacy in front of a camera with
the coat and tie on, and that it's
it's very,
nonpersonal
to a certain degree and just focus on
an end result and not the process. However,
at at the booth, it was a range
of kids, adults, grandpa, all of that. I
was talking to a mom. We had the
little whiteboard having, you know, conversations and whatnot.
And her first question was, you know, how
can I get involved or more active? And
that moment shifted it to where because there
was an expressed
need or want. It's like, I've come to
the point to understand when folks express something,
give them the tools they need in that
moment and see how far they go with
it so that it doesn't become codependent.
And so she took it, ran with it.
So fast forward,
later on, it was either that day or
the next day, out on the patio talking
with a few of the folks. Here she
comes. Her little son is walking with her.
She comes on out there. I walk from
the other side of the patio. I stick
out to my two my little pinky. I'm
a also a grandfather.
Put the little pinky out and he holds
on to it.
I go sit on the fountain. K? He
sits on the ground. Crosses his legs. I
said, well, I move my cell phone down
and sit on there with his mother's right
there. I said, mother, we got this. And
had a conversation with him. I said, I
also have hemophilia.
I said, come on, I'm a show you
a couple of the guys walked over to
the other side. There was,
one of the guys who's in his mid
thirties. I said, here, stand right there next
to him. You're going to grow up and
you're going to just be as tall as
him and his age. One of the older
guys who's in the sixties
said, now stand right there next to him,
did the same thing. And I said, see,
you have something here. These are the guys
you will grow up to be. And so
much more. The unique thing of that patio
experience,
these were all black men living effectively with
hemophilia B at all stages of life who
represented where our community was and is and
going to. It,
it, it flows in a way that could
not be scripted or written or any kind
of way. I hope they
are carrying with him is the impact of
their story
that leads to their stories
That leads to education, not just for those
in their immediate family, but in their immediate
communities, just someone taking the time to stop
and have a conversation.
And with that, let me take a moment
to celebrate you, the members of the Coalition
for Hemophilia B, and what thirty five years
has meant to so many families and individuals.
The power to transform lives lives within all
of us. You only need to find the
courage to speak up for someone in need
because when you do, you are a much
needed voice for this community,
and it needs you now more than ever.
But don't take my word for it. I'll
let the CEO of the Coalition for Hemophilia
B, Kim Phelan, have the last word. What
emotions are you feeling as we celebrate thirty
five years here in Orlando? I get teary
eyed. My heart is full, and I'm just
so proud of the community
that we created, the platform, but the people
that all came together. Not just treat hemophilia,
but also to treat the mind, body, and
spirit, and the connections
of the people are so powerful and healing.
So to know that they have each other,
that it's like a second family and they're
not alone. So I feel so much love.
The a lot of the message this morning
was give as much as you take or
however you wanna phrase that. So what's your
message to families out there who maybe are
apprehensive about advocacy? You know, I think when
you first hear the word advocacy,
it's intimidating. It is. Because Conflict. What does
that mean? But they need to understand that
advocacy is comes in many, many ways. It
comes in helping others, being a voice for
those who are not speaking well to their
doctors. It's writing to Congress. Advocacy is in
so many shapes and forms. You're advocating for
your child. You're advocating for your family. You're
advocating for yourself. So we have to empower
people to know that advocacy is not a
scary word. Mhmm. Right? And that it's really
simple, then everyone can do it in many
ways. Yeah. As we celebrate thirty five, fortunately,
I do have a lot of hope, but
my concern
is that we are facing challenges
that I saw thirty five years ago, but
in a different way. And I really need
the community to really step up more than
they have ever stepped up before. And so
we're bringing in the strongest advocates that I
know, the real fighters who fought thirty five
years ago
to make this community strong. Thirty five is
going to be bumpy. People are gonna be
more empowered, and they're gonna be stronger than
ever because we're gonna equip them with that
ammunition,
and we're gonna make this community be really
tight and strong.
Thank you for listening to Boundless Bee, the
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families and individuals for their participation in today's
episode. And on a personal note, big thank
you to executive director Erica Garber and director
of communications
Jennifer Deglopper
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Anything else to add, Miles?