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Hello, and welcome to this episode
of ArtsAbly in Conversation.

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My name is Diane Kolin.

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This series presents artists, academics,
and project leaders who dedicate their

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time and energy to a better accessibility
for people with disabilities in the arts.

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You can find more of these conversations
on our website, artsably.com,

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which is spelled A-R-T-S-A-B-L-Y dot com.

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Today, ArtsAbly is in conversation
with Danielle Hollobaugh, who is a singer,

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an actor, and a songwriter
living and working in Los Angeles.

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You can find the resources mentioned
by Danielle Hollobaugh  during this episode

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on ArtsAbly's website in the blog section.

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We were so in love, couldn't get enough.

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Everything was perfect.

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We kept each other warm, weathered
every storm, made it feel so worth it.

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But just like a ship sinking quickly,
you disappeared like a ghost,

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leaving behind all this heartache.

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Now I have to face it alone.

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The air gets cold.

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I hear your voice,
but you're not there to hold.

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It's like I'm living in a haunted mansion.

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It's like I'm living in a haunted mansion.

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Hello, everybody.

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Welcome to this new episode
of ArtsAbly in Conversation.

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Today, I am with Danielle Hollobaugh, who is
a singer, an actor, and a songwriter,

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and she lives and works in Los Angeles.

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Thank you, Danielle, for joining us today.

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Thank you for having me.

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I know you are a multi-talented person.

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You're doing a a lot of things
in acting and singing.

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I wanted to have a little bit
of your background before we know

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a little bit more about your work.

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Where do you come from?

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What is your background?

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Did you do some musical studies or
what brought you to where you are today?

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I'm from Florida.

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I grew up very lucky because

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my hometown started a theatre program
for kids with disabilities.

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I got signed up for that, and I got early
on a chance to perform on stage.

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The first ever number that I did on stage
was my friend and I fighting

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over who gets to sing the solo.

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It was very fitting.

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My dad teaches karate.

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I do take from him, and he puts on
a lot of kickboxing events.

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I also started performing
at those events pretty early on.

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I was having six or seven.

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It was really cool.

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I got a lot of stage experience that way.

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Then by the time I was
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and looking for talent showcases.

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When I did my first showcase, they
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because that's the only way
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have any interest in you.
So I did.

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I started writing and I demoed my first
original songs three or four years later.

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At that point, I also fell in love with
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that's actually what I want to do is record.

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When I found out that being
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Okay, now I've got a more realistic
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So I looked for work wherever
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Then I eventually moved to LA,
where I met a lot more producers and

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found a lot more resources.

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I started working a lot more
in the studio and performing less.

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I've had some really cool
experiences since then.

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I'm really happy for the journey
that this has taken me on.

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When did you start acting?

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I started acting in the same vein.

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I did plays in stuff in high school,
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toward the end.

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Then I majored in acting in college, but I
had a bad experience with the teacher.

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I actually have a little story
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for a long time and came back to it.

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I'm like, I'm going to take
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to sharpen my skills again.

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I fell head over heels and
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I never had available to me before
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Now I'm hopefully on the upswing.

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I'm interested in this little story
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What was your bad experience
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When I signed up for my acting class,
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and he said someone like me could never

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pass this class and I should drop it.

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Being the spirit that I am,
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Too bad, you're going to deal with me.

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But that had a pretty bad effect
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who doesn't want you there,
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He wasn't nice to me or encouraging.

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I still learned a lot because
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but he himself broke me down a lot.

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So yeah, that was my not so great start
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But did he ever give a reason?

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Because of my blindness.

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I was fearing that was the case.

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Well, I'm happy you went back to it.

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Me too, because I feel more complete.

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Good. And so, you're doing that.

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Today, you are
an accomplished singer and actor.

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What are you doing?

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What is your everyday life
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I've done a few short films and commercials 
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Then as a singer, I've been working on...

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The last couple of years, I've had
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like national TV, which is really cool.

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Yeah, right now, literally today,
we're working on a batch of songs

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to send to an ad agency.

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I'm really excited to see
how all of that turns out.

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I'm in the middle of a lot
of writing and recording sessions.

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I saw that you had a role in Dhar Mann.

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That was 2018? No...
When was that?

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No, it was last year.

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Last year? Okay.

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Yeah, that is good because I like
this series.

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Can you talk more about that episode
that you shot with Dhar Mann?

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Yeah, I've been an extra
for him before, so it was really cool

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that they called me back to do this role.

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It really highlights the importance
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because there were a lot of things
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Also, just by working with me,
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Okay, this isn't right.

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It was really cool to be on set.

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It was a big sound stage
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because usually I I'll shoot
in homes or outdoors or whatever.

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To be on that sound stage
in Los Angeles was really neat.

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Yeah, breaking barriers.

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For those who don't know what Dhar Mann
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short films of issues in the society
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or like treating people a different way.

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It's short episodes every time.

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It's not that long, right?

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Every time, what is the length
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I think mine was 25 minutes.

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It is good.

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Then there is really a build-up
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that always concludes at the end.

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I really like that format.

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You participated
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But the one that I really had a look at, I
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you did a different one, was the
Easterseals Disability Film Challenge.

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Oh, yes.

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Can you talk about your experience 
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every year, different scenario,
and how does it work for you?

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I love it so much because it's really the
only program out there that's encouraging

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disabled people to tell our own stories.

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I like that, as much as I love 
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dramatic acting is definitely my favorite, but 

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I like that they're more 
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and lighter side of things.

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Every year, they give you a genre,
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things  you have to 
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and you're off to the races.

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You start writing your story,
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to make a five-minute film.

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It's a little bit hectic,
but it's so much fun.

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The people I've formed friendships
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that program are so, so, so valuable.

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How many films did you do with them?
Three, right?

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So far, four.
Four?

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It's interesting because
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It's the process that is interesting.

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The five days to do a five minutes -

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How do you choose the actors
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In my case, I originally wanted to make
one in Florida, but that fell through.

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There's an awesome blind
actor, Marilee Talkington.

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She sponsored a couple of teams,
blind teams, for the film challenge.

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I e-mailed her.

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I applied to be on one of the teams.

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It just so happened that three
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for the time of the challenge.

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We actually got to meet in person.

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I'd never met other visually impaired
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That was just a really cool experience.

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In our case, we already assembled a team,
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on the actors in the team.

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But I know other people who wrote their
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did little casting calls and stuff like that.

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But in my case, it's either been being
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some friends and doing it that way.

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I recognize some of the actors in...

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I saw three, and in the three,
they were the same actors.

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I guess you created
a friendship with this team.

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Yeah, totally.
Very good.

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Okay, I want to go back to your music.

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I know you are right now

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having a few albums or at least

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a song that will release soon.

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but I also have a question about...

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you told me you were beginning 
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Yeah.

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The song that's coming
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During quarantine, I hired a tutor

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because I always recorded my own vocals.

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I was working from home a lot more.

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I hired someone to teach me the ropes
about using a software called Reaper.

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Yeah, he taught me to do things
I never thought I'd be able to.

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Not only did he help me improve my vocal
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which I do in my everyday life, 
but he also gave me tips and tricks

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on putting my music together.

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I will say the main producer
that I use for most of my music, he also

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was helping me just learn things.

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I can always go to him
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I wouldn't say that I could
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but it's been really cool to have
such an involved hand in my own music.

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I interviewed someone called
Jessica Tomlinson a few weeks ago,

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and she's also using Reaper.

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I see her in the group.

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That's so funny.

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It was really interesting because I never
heard of Reaper before interviewing her,

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and I was able to really have a feel
of how important this work is.

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I think they have a team
called Reapers Without Peepers?

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Yes, that's it.

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Okay, good.

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Now, about your song. 

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Tell me more about that.

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I've produced most of it and then

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took it to my producer who cleaned it up 

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and made it sound awesome.

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It's called Mess.

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I wrote it in 2021 because that was
just a horrible year for me.

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It just is about how you kind of 

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tend to shut yourself in 
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Society wants you to come out and play,
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no, you really don't want 
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It'll be interesting to hear,
to see what people think of it.

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When is it released?

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It'll be in July, at some point.
Okay.

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It's going to be available
on Spotify, things like that?

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Yes.
Okay, good.

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Okay, great.

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Oh, looking forward to it.

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I will also post links to your links
and Spotify on ArtsAbly's website

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so that people can have a look,
too, and listen to it.

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Awesome.

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Okay, I have a question about...

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You've been working in disability arts
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Easterseals or whether it is with your
own experience that you try to carry.

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I wanted to ask you what it means
to work in disability arts for you.

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I think it means so many different things.

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My experiences with music and acting
are so different.

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As a musician, especially as 
a session musician,

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I've never had to disclose a disability,
especially when I work from home.

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I get hired purely based on my voice
and my talent, which is really special.

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as an actor,
it's really forced me to

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be more open about it because I've always
been very insecure

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about my disability, and 
certainly a lot of my

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acting-related experiences haven't helped
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getting to meet other actors
with disabilities,

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that's made me feel more empowered to
talk about it more

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because I can't not tell somebody.

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If I don't tell somebody when I send in 
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What are her eyes doing?

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So it's been really cool to
get out of that comfort zone and

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be able to highlight something about me
that I've always tried to keep as

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hidden from the world as I could.

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I see.
Yeah, definitely.

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I think a bad experience can also

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project you to a good transformation.

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Yeah.

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You've been able to do that,
so that's good.

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Yeah.

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Thank you.

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Okay, I have a last question for you,
which is about people in your career

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or in your life who've been able
to inspire you, motivate you, or to

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bring you to a place where you are today
and thanks to whom you are here.

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If you had one or two people or more
to think of, who would it be and why?

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The people who have really changed things
for me, I would say, are the main

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music producer that I work with, Eric.

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He really pushed me to
learn production on my own.

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He opened me up to the world of music
licensing, which is an awesome way

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to make money in the music industry
without having to show your face.

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He just always really been encouraging of me.

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Then on the acting side,
it's hard because there's really not

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a lot of people like me with the roadmap.

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I've had to figure it all out on my own.

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I would say the people who've really

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deserve all the credit are my teachers

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who were happy to work with me
and who took on the challenge and

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decided to navigate these waters with me.

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I have a couple in New York
who are disability allies, and

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they talk about authentic casting a lot.

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I'm really lucky to have
the mentorship that I do.

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We share that experience that
great mentors, you carry them

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for your whole career, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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That's good.

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It erases - It doesn't erase completely
what happened with your teacher,

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but it reinforces the way
he was bad, he was not right about it.

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Yes.

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So today you feel confident
in your acting and your singing

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and your songwriting, right?

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Yeah, for sure.

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I mean, I struggle like anyone
else, but I feel a lot better.

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I feel like I'm in great hands.

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Okay, so thank you so much for discussing
all these important topics with us today.

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Thank you.

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All the best with your songs
and the one that is released

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in July and also your acting.

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Thank you so much.

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And have a great day.

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You too.
Bye.

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Bye.

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♪ Closing theme music ♪

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Bye.