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Welcome to the Static Podcast.
I'm your host, Anthony T.
And this is episode 116.
We'll be back on this Wednesday, May 29th, 2024.
Thank you for joining me today.
I hope you had a great Memorial Day weekend.
We hung out locally, just did Different things, went on hikes, you know, even
went to the mall, got some savings, but I didn't want to travel, the
traffic and stuff, I didn't know how it was going to be, so we stayed local.
And, uh, it worked out, it was a good time.
So this week's episode will be a little bit of a continuation of
the last episode on the Vatican and the infiltration of Freemasons.
I've read all the books I needed to read, or I think there's probably
more, but this is all I can do.
And to start this week's episode off, I have a clip.
New today, the Vatican apologizing and not really denying that Pope Francis
used an offensive slur for gay men during a conversation with bishops last week.
We've got some folks really shocked by this, especially because the
Pope, in their view, has been pretty inclusive toward the LGBTQ community.
Even last year, allowing priests.
To bless some same sex couples.
Claudio Lavanga is in Rome with more.
According to Italian media, Pope Francis used an offensive gay slur during
a closed door meeting with bishops.
Reports of the alleged incident first appeared on a political gossip
website called Dagospia, and was later picked up by all major news outlets.
In Italy.
The report said that during the meeting, a bishop asked the Pope
what to do when gay men asked to be admitted to Catholic seminaries.
The Pope reportedly said that he's against it because while it is important
to embrace everyone, it was likely that gay men could risk leading a double life.
He then allegedly used a highly derogatory term in Italian to say that there are
already too many gay men in seminaries.
In a statement, the Vatican said the Pope never intended to offend or express
himself in homophobic terms, and he extends his apologies to those who
were offended by the use of that term.
Well, according to Italian media, several bishops defend the Pope by saying that
he used the term jokingly and claimed that as an Argentinian who speaks Italian
as a second language, he did not fully understand how offensive that word is.
But despite the justification and the Pope's apology, it is an embarrassing
episode for Pope Francis, who, since he was elected in 2011, he repeatedly
reached out to gay Catholics.
Now, one of his first and still most famous quotes is what he
said on a flight back from Brazil only weeks after he was elected.
He said, when it comes to homosexuality, Who am I to judge?
But now the judgment has turned on him for having allegedly
used an unforgivable gay slur.
And that was from NBC Now.
That was from earlier this week.
And I believe that the slur was faggotry.
He said there was too much faggotry in the seminaries already, which I wonder why.
As I covered in the last episode of the Freemason progressive takeover
of the Vatican after Vatican II.
So I'm going to start off with some canon law history of the Vatican.
So uh, Catholic canon law has forbidden membership in Masonic
organizations since 1738.
with Pope Clement XII's papal bull in eminenti apostolitis.
Sorry if I butchered that.
So canon law 2335, affiliation with Masonic or similar societies, those
who join a Masonic sect or other societies of the same sort which
plot against the church or against legitimate civil authority, incur
ipso facto and excommunication simply reserved to the Holy See.
So the Holy See being It's S E E being like the, uh, Vatican
government apparatus, the bishops and stuff, and the Pope in charge.
So they, they decide the excommunication.
So that code was set in 1917, and in 1983 they changed the code of the
Canon Law, which is Canon Law 1374, a person who joins any association
with plots against the Church is to be punished with a just penalty.
A penalty, one who promotes or takes office in such an association.
is to be punished with an interdict.
So they just completely removed the word Freemasonry from there and
just made it a general, and there is no more excommunication mentioned.
It's just a penalty will be decided because they have
infiltrated by this time.
This, all this went on in the 70s earlier prior to this new law.
So again, let me do a quick rundown summary of 1978 in the Vatican, which
1978 was known as the year of three popes because a lot of stuff was going on.
So let's get into it.
In 1978, during Pope Paul, the six two Cardinals, Dino Staa, and Sylvi,
OD accused, Archbishop Bonini and Cardinal Gio of being Freemasons,
they received a letter stating.
This, which they had verified by Interpol before brought to the Pope.
Uh, Paul is sixth.
Now the list I have here, and this is from the book Murder in the 33rd
degree, the Ganon investigation into Vatican Freemasonry.
Uh, the, they contained an alphabetical list of Prelates and Lae, some of
whom held positions in the Vatican.
Among them were the names of Cardinal Jean Velo, secretary of
State for the Vatican ba obviously.
Agostino Casaroli, Secretary of the Council for Public Affairs of the Church.
Pio Lehi, Nuncio to Argentina.
Anibal Bugnini, Nuncio to Iran.
Paul Marchinkis, President of the Works of Religion, a.
k.
a.
the Vatican Bank.
Cardinal Ugo Poletti and Leo Swenens, Franco Biffi, rector
of the Lateran, uh, University.
Don Virgilio Levi, director of the Ossevertori Romano, and numerous
bishops and various Italian diocese.
In addition to the names, the serial numbers and dates of initiation
into Freemasonry were indicated.
Bishop Bugnini's initiation date was listed as April 23rd,
1963, his code number 1365 75, and his code name was Buon.
So after hearing this list, Pope, uh, Pope Paul VI, they decided
to start an investigation.
And they picked, uh, Archbishop Gagnon, which was pretty much
considered neutral out of, he didn't really was close with anybody.
So he led this investigation.
Um, after the completion of the investigation, Gagnon brought
the results, which named all the culprits to Pope Paul VI.
At the time, I think it took around two years or so.
Pope Paul VI was in bad shape and also I think the people around him which were
involved in this list kind of got to him.
And not only that, uh, one of his dear friends was, uh, murdered.
That friend was Aldo Moro.
That is known as the Aldo Moro case.
Uh, The kidnapping, this is from Wikipedia, the kidnapping and murder
of Aldo Moro, also referred in Italy as the Moro case, was a seminal event
in Italian political history on the morning of 16th March 1978, the day
on which a new cabinet led by Giulio Andriati was to have undergone a
confidence vote in the Italian parliament.
The car of Aldo Moro, former prime minister and then president of the
Christian Democratic Democracy Party, Italy's relative majority party at the
time was assaulted by a group of far left terrorists known as the Red Brigades.
Firing automatic weapons, the terrorists killed Mauro's bodyguards, two Cabernet
and Mauro's car, and three policemen in the following car, and kidnapped him.
Uh, the events remain a national trauma.
Uh, while Italy was not the sole European country to experience extremist terrorism,
which also cornered France, Germany, Ireland, and Spain, the murder of Mauro
was The Apogee of Italy's Years of Lead.
On May 9th, 1978, Moro's body was found in the boot of a Renault Fort in Via Catani.
After 54 days of imprisonment, Moro had been subjected to a political trial by a
people's court set up by the Red Brigade, uh, which had, uh, Asked the Italian
government for exchange of prisoners.
The car with Moro's body was found very close to both locations of the national
offices of the, uh, Christian Democracy Party and Italian Communist Party, uh,
in Rome, the Red Brigades were opposed to Moro and, uh, uh, historic compromise,
uh, on June 23rd, 1983, an Italian court sentenced 32 members of the Red Brigade
to life imprisonment for their role in the kidnapping and murder of Moro.
And not only did you have these red grades, God, you'd had the P2 Lodge in
Italy, um, which was called Propaganda Dua, uh, was a Masonic Lodge founded
in 1877 within the tradition of Continental Freemasonry and under the
authority of Grand Orient of Illory.
Its Masonic Charter was withdrawn in 1976 and it was transformed
by worshipful Master Licio Ghelli into an international institution.
Illegal, clandestine, anti communist, anti Soviet, anti Marxist, and radical
right criminal organization and secret society operating in contravention of
Article 18 of the Constitution of Italy that ban all such secret associations.
Lisa Ugeli continued to operate the unaffiliated lodge from 1976 to 1984.
P2 was implicated in numerous Italian crimes and mysteries, including the
collapse of the Holy See, affiliated Banco Abruzziano, the contract killing of
journalist Carmine Peccarelli, and mobbed up bank president Roberto Calvi, and
political corruption cases within the The nationwide Tangentopoli bribery scandal.
P2 came to light through an investigation into the collapse of
Michelle Sindona's financial empire.
As you can see, there was a lot of corruption going on in Italy at the time.
Not only Freemasons, but organized crime.
And, uh, they mention how it, one of the guys, this P2
Lodge, took down the Holy See.
And we, I just spoke about that, that's like the government, like how they had
that effect and, and so this pope, the sixth, and now giving this information
that there's Freemasons infiltrated in the Vatican and his friend was just kidnapped
and killed, uh, probably wanted, got the message and didn't want anything to do
with it and told, uh, Gagnon that, uh, let the next Pope handle it, you know.
Um, upset Gagnon did as he was told and waited.
Uh, Pope Paul VI died on August 6th, 1978.
Sorry for the rustling there of the papers, I got notes.
So, now the next Pope was elected, which was Albino Luciani.
He became, uh, Pope John Paul the first.
Gagnon got a private sit down with, uh, the pope, the new pope, and informed
him of the investigation findings, and Pope John Paul the first said
he would do some house cleaning.
He was a more conservative Pope and he said he would start.
Um, one of the first people he wanted to clean house was Baggio and he wanted
to remove him and he had to sit down with Baggio, but it was late at night.
Um, now these people had pretty much, uh, a lot of control in the
Vatican, all these Freemasons.
And so they were even.
Somewhat disrespectful to the Pope.
Uh, he called for an early meeting.
The guy said, I'm busy, so I'll come by later when I have time.
And, uh, he went and met with the Pope after hours and supposedly
there was a shouting going on.
And, um, He left the Pope, and the next day the Pope was found dead in
his bed, and there was, uh, no foul play was reported, no autopsy was
also done, and coincidentally, it was his 33rd day as a Pope, which
is a very big number in Freemasonry.
So that's two Popes down in 1978, one more to go.
Uh, steps in, uh, Karol Wojtyla as, uh, Pope John Paul II, the first
non Italian pope in, I don't know, ages that was, uh, elected pope.
And now the Vatican, the whole Vatican knows about the Gagnon
investigation pretty much.
Everybody hears grumblings about it.
And instead of appointing his own staff, John Paul II
leaves the old administration.
And all these So called these people being on the Freemasons, he leaves them
in place, which was kind of uncommon.
You don't do that.
And when, uh, he, he promises Gagnon a sit down when he returns from his
first trip, he has the sit down and still does nothing with Gagnon after
finding out all this information.
Uh, there's another.
group called the St.
Gallen's Mafia within the, uh, Vatican that kind of gets more positions inside
the Vatican as, uh, Pope John Paul II is Pope and he's traveling around.
They take more of a hold of, of, of the Vatican.
They are also a very more progressive group with an agenda.
Uh, finally, Gagnon, you know, uh, during the investigation with the paperwork that
they received about these Freemasons, he also said that there's probably
going to be an attack on, uh, Pope John Paul II's life out of the East and,
uh, Like he didn't do nothing about it.
He really didn't take it, you know, for what it was worth.
And then when he was in St.
Petersburg, St.
Pope John Paul, the second was shot.
And after he came out of hospital, or he woke up in the hospital and
he, in the recovery room, uh, he said, please get me, uh, Gagnon.
And they.
began making changes and really they didn't even excommunicate these guys.
They just gave them positions.
Like I think they made, they sent them to Iran, like to, to, to run the church in
Iran, where he had pretty much influence, but they didn't get rid of these guys.
So it kind of, You know, a little skeptical there.
Like if you know, these guys were this bad and, and trying to pull the strings
and change the church, why wouldn't you just get rid of them completely?
So there's still some, some element of like, uh, shenanigans for me.
Like it's, you get rid of these people.
Now we have to take the political climate of that whole area of Europe in the
ninth, late seventies, which is pretty much the beginning of the cold war.
You have all these.
So called Freemason bishops running around the Vatican, uh, Prime Ministers and,
uh, political leaders getting killed, uh, mobs involved, secret societies involved.
And it, it, one of the, the head of the Vatican Bank is a Freemason, so
there's a lot of money there, and that buys a lot of political influence.
Now, in order to, uh, You can kill two birds with one stone.
Here you have Karl Wojtyla, Polish Pope, right?
Now you can say, Hey, well, we're gonna put this guy in.
He's not Italian.
He might not be involved in all that stuff.
He's gonna clean up the Vatican.
Which he almost got shot and killed, but, okay.
He, he's trying to clean up the Vatican, and at the same time, It works for
him because he's head of the Vatican and we have Poland, which is, you
know, pretty much communist, uh, right now and controlled by the Russians.
So it works for, let's say other people who would be against the
Russians and during the cold war.
Now, just a brief recap of, uh, Carol Fortiwa, Pope John Paul II's
past, you know, he was, uh, in Poland and he became, he worked for a,
uh, controversial German chemical.
Company at the time of the war, and then he went to seminary and quickly
arose to becoming Pope in the church and being such an influential person.
Now, Mr.
Or Pope John Paul ii, Mr.
Carol Ti, I want to go into his friend.
Dr.
Wolf Shmunez's friend or acquaintance, um, I'm gonna read out of the
book, uh, The Man Who Created AIDS, which is pretty much Dr.
Wolf Shmunez's last, like, manuscript, his come clean.
And this, uh, Christian Anders wrote a book and pretty much
published this, uh, uh, book.
Manuscript of this doctor who was the successful doctor of the Hepatitis B
trials, and he has a chapter in here.
Chapter 9 of the book is called, My Friend the Pope, and I will read it to you now.
Chapter 9, My Friend the Pope.
After attack was over I sat on my bed staring into the dark, flashes from
the past appeared before my inner eye.
It was almost as if somebody from another plane of consciousness
put together the pieces for me.
They all, at least almost everybody in leading positions at the CDC, WHO, AMA,
FDA, NCI, CIA, Merck, and Co., etc., etc., must have known of this, must have
planned it along, Long ago, before I had even dreamed of coming to America.
Now, I remember and understand what had happened, for instance, as far back as
1963 in Poland, after my return from the labor camps in Siberia, when one
summer, I took a 10 day holiday at a state resort in the mountains, where
I shared a room with another man.
He was young and had great charisma.
He was shining with almost a halo around his head, and I am not exaggerating.
We quickly got along with each other, and during long walks together in the
mountains, I told him about my life's dream, which was to vaccinate homosexuals
in America against hepatitis B.
He asked me, why in America?
Why not in Poland or elsewhere in Europe?
Because I knew from correspondence with American colleagues that homosexuals in
America were organizing more and more.
They would build the perfect cohort group for my experiment trial.
I hadn't even heard that there were homosexuals existing in Europe, at
least not as openly as in America.
Why homosexuals for my trial?
The reader knows it by now.
The immediate interest of this young man, Carl was his name, in
my hepatitis B vaccine trial idea or plan was flattering to me.
I love to talk and I love when somebody listens to me.
Maybe because, in Siberia, during hard labor, I had to shut up and to work.
Nobody would listen, and I had so many unfulfilled dreams,
plans, projects, and ideas.
But nobody would listen.
And here was somebody who cared for what I had to say.
Only my wife would listen, more devoted to me than Carol.
And his interest was not faked, just doing me a favor.
It was real.
Carol would sometimes wake me up at night and ask me all these
questions, like, Why homosexuals?
And how can you be sure that gay men who receive the vaccine or placebo
would not have contact with other HIV, hepatitis B infected homosexuals,
thus, so to speak, testing the vaccine itself for its effectiveness?
Because, Carol, I answered, I will choose young, healthy,
and promiscuous homosexuals.
That is why.
Oh, innocent Carol.
He didn't even really know how homosexuals had sex with each other.
I knew it.
I had learned it the hard way when I was raped and sodomized many
times by Russian guards in Siberia.
But I didn't tell that to Carol.
I only explained to him that homosexuals had oral and anal sex.
That you could even put a fist plus forearm into a man's behind was something
that I had witnessed myself during my research in gay bars and bathhouses.
Thank God the guards in Russia spared me that experience.
Today I think that it, it is all, it is anal sex which is responsible for a
high incident rate of hepatitis B and A, although A is mainly food related.
In gay men, the lower intestines are main breeding ground for all bacteria
and anal sex creates a direct contact into the lower intestinal area where
the AIDS virus preferably bleeds.
So I talked and talked and talked to Carl for almost 10 days about my
hepatitis B vaccine trial and how and why young healthy and promiscuous
gay men would be the perfect cohort.
At the end of my time, at the end of this time, it was on our last
day together in the mountains.
Carl and I had just finished eating our meal together.
When he laid his hand on my shoulder, looked me straight in the eyes and said,
Wolf, I have something to confess to you which I didn't dare to tell you before.
But since we are leaving tomorrow, I think you should know
that I, I, I, I am a Catholic.
So what?
I asked.
He looked at me in astonishment.
You, you don't mind?
Of course I mind, I teased him.
Now that I know that you are a Catholic, I won't talk to you
anymore for the rest of my life.
And not only that, I will also tell the KGB.
Carol was relieved, and I thought because, I mean, you are, as
you told me, Judeo Christian.
I laughed until my lungs hurt, which didn't take much, because I suffered
already back then from tuberculosis.
My dear Carol, I gasped, I couldn't care less even if you be a Buddhist.
You and me will always stay friends.
With tears in our eyes, we embraced each other and Carl said, Then I guess I can
or should also confess the rest to you.
I am to become bishop very soon.
I was truly moved and also glad for him.
Congratulations, Carl.
And I added with a little smile, I hope you will still talk to me or
remember me once you are a bishop.
I will always remember you, Wolf, he said with great warmth and sincerity, and
I will help you to realize your dream.
One day you will be in America and you will do your Hepatitis B vaccine trial.
Just wait and see.
He said it with such enthusiasm and decisiveness that I did
not want to destroy the magic of the moment by doubting it.
But in my mind I thought, why should that dream ever come true?
Why would they choose a little doctor from Poland to do a vaccine trial in America?
They had their own people who were ten times better trained for such an
experiment than I, than I, whose main job had to be look after cafeterias, check
the food, and to maintain general health of Siberian labor camps by controlling
the outbreak of lice, diagnosing diseases, isolating infectious people,
and looking in general after sanitation.
What made me a specialist in hepatitis B?
Where were my credentials?
Why would they choose me?
No, there was no way that my dream would come true, but I
did not say anything to Carol.
I just thanked him with all my heart for his words of encouragement,
but most of all for his friendship.
We kept in contact, Carl and I, and then I did not hear from him for a long time.
In the year when my Hepatitis B vaccine trial began, I watched TV
in New York with my wife, Maya.
I'll never forget that day.
They showed a report about the Vatican.
Cardinal Chamberlain appeared on the balcony announcing the new Pope.
And there he was, Carol.
A bit older, but radiant and charismatic as ever.
Carol, my friend from our walks in the mountain, had become the new Pope.
Pope Paul II.
That was one of the happiest days in my life.
Today I can't say that anymore.
Was Carol one of them?
Whenever I had a problem, Paul and Carol was there to prevent
the worst from happening.
He often sent me little messages, you see, it went well, etc.
In 1969, I met him in the Vatican, I said.
Holy Father to him, although he wasn't yet the Pope.
To me, Karol was always like God.
Without him, I and my family would be dead already, killed by KGB
or simply by those who hate Jews.
Poland is full of anti Semites.
Without Karol There would be no professor Dr.
Wolf Schmunez, professor of Columbia University School of
for public health and chief of epidemiology New York Blood Center.
Carol, my friend from the mountains, had become Pope Paul II.
How far did his arm reach?
Had he told them, Hey, I have somebody for you, a nutty Polish professor.
He is just the right one for the job to spread the AIDS virus in gays and blacks.
Not only that, he will even help you create the damn virus.
How deep was Carl's involved in all this?
How would he react to AIDS?
Would that reaction uncover his true identity as belonging to them?
Now there's a footnote by the author at the end and it says, uh, Dr.
Ximenez didn't live to answer that question.
We will do it for him.
Here are the, here are the data.
Only facts.
Roman Catholics under Pope Paul II have problem with agreeing to educate
people to wear condoms for AIDS prevention, although indeed condoms
do not prevent you from getting AIDS.
But the Roman Catholic Church refuses to allow the wearing of condoms, of
course, for other reasons than that.
Archbishop Mahoney says, in the name of the Pope, the Roman Church does
not approve of the use of condoms.
In the issue of AIDS, such use implies either heterosexual,
promiscuity, or homosexual activity.
The Church approves of neither.
The pastoral letter from November 1986 makes it clear That the practice
of homosexuality is an objective disorder and an intrinsic moral evil.
Pope Paul II condemns homosexuality because it could threaten the lives and
well being of a large number of people.
Pope Paul II does everything possible in his power to spread the
information that AIDS is a gay disease.
Did he help put it into them?
So what we have here is you have two individuals that Pretty much a rose
to some what power with Pope John Paul, not being an Italian, a Polish
Pope for the first time in many years.
And then you have this guy, dr.
Will Schumann as who is in, and he, he had an education.
Epidemiology wasn't like he never knew anything about it, but he
gets to come to America and work for the New York City Blood Center
and gets his hepatitis trials.
And he also did, supposedly, in this book, discover the AIDS virus.
It was, uh, he took, uh, A cow virus, a bovine virus with a sheep virus
and cultured in human tissue and it's pretty much that was the AIDS virus.
The sheep virus was some sort of leukemia and the cow virus
was some sort of respiratory thing and it's pretty much AIDS.
And after the trials and people, gay men started coming down with
carposis and whatever diseases.
He checked their blood work and he saw this virus that he had created, and
he has no clue how it got in there.
And that's pretty much the, that's pretty much how AIDS
started in the gay community.
No, nobody had sex with a monkey in Africa.
They just did all these trials, vaccine trials all over the world, and somebody,
somewhere, uh, put this virus into the vaccines, or it was contamination.
Which I think the powers that be will never let us know, just like the recent
pandemic and the vaccinations and what causes it and where it came from.
So we all know that, but the implication here is by Dr.
Shmuel Nesmanuel, that he feels that somebody knew.
What they were doing and they used him to spread this AIDS virus.
Now the author says that the Pope John Paul, you know, pretty much they
hated gays and it was a gay disease.
And, and, and it was to bash gays because Catholic hate.
Gays, which is, you know, that's just the propaganda.
You, if you're Catholic, you're not gay.
And if you're gay, why would you want to be Catholic?
It just goes, it's the propaganda.
They get every like, Oh, they hate gays.
It's like, no, if you're a Catholic, you're not gay.
It's against the religion.
It's like not part of your faith.
Same thing with Muslims.
Same thing with Judaism, all the religions.
Like there's, you're supposed to get married and have kids.
And with.
Homosexuality, that can't happen, right, naturally.
So, therefore, it is not part of pretty much any religion.
Yeah, but the Bible says, be fruitful and multiply, not be fruity and multiply.
It doesn't happen.
So, anyway, I digress, I digress.
So, we have I think three scenarios here that can be possible, uh, and
one scenario states from the St.
Gallen Mafia book that I read, and I really didn't touch on it this way
because it's an audio book, I didn't have any snippets, but they say that
This, the AIDS virus, the propaganda people in the Vatican used it to kind
of start chipping away at Catholicism saying, well, Catholics should use
condoms so they don't get AIDS and die.
And that's what was the spin of it.
See, what they do is they chip away slowly at a time, slowly at a time, and,
and condition people to what they want.
And now we have men using women's bathrooms and men in women's sports.
So that was like the stepping stone.
They're like, no, Catholics should be able to use contraception
so they don't get AIDS.
Uh, but it's like a very pretty bad thing.
Um, not, not to procreate for, uh, reproduction as Catholics,
but you can see how they started, they used that as an excuse.
The second scenario may be that there was some nefarious plan that they wanted
to get rid of homosexuals and, you know, these two people were used for it.
Uh, I don't see that kind of happening.
The third, I think, the more, uh, viable scenario would be that
maybe since the Vatican was going through such stuff, They needed a
distraction, and what's better than a distraction than some sort of pandemic?
And they released this AIDS virus as a pandemic, and that pretty much took up all
of the 80s, and that was the big thing.
People were dying, and then everybody kind of forgot about the Vatican, right?
And who else did it benefit?
Well, it benefited the drug companies, of course, and trials, and here we go,
and you see how much money they make.
Um, and in that book, The Man Who Created AIDS, it seems like it's an ongoing
cycle, you know, there's vaccine patents, there's a lot of money to be made,
so it's 2024 and they're still at it.
Here's a clip.
All right, there's a second case of a human catching bird flu
from an infected cow in the U.
S.
And it's the latest case coming from Michigan, after a similar
report came out of Texas last month.
Both people infected are dairy farm workers.
So here with me now in Studio 57 is Dr.
Selim Gounder.
She's a CBS News medical contributor and editor.
Editor at large for public health at Kaiser Family Foundation.
Thank you so much for joining us.
So we were talking before this upstairs and I said, okay, two cases.
How big of a deal is this health concern?
Should I be the general public is still at risk for bird flu.
I think the key point here is that we are seeing sporadic cases among dairy workers.
We are hearing many reports of dairy workers who have pink eye,
which is the most characteristic symptom of this right now.
And this is concerning because the more you see this virus in people, in cattle,
in other mammals, the more opportunities it has to mutate to Adapt and eventually
adapt for human to human spread.
Now, that's not going to happen tomorrow, but there's a lot we can be
doing now to prevent the next pandemic.
And this is precisely what we're really focused on is how do we prevent
that next pandemic from happening.
And so, I mean, the likelihood of anyone getting bird flu, you
said it's pretty low, but what are the symptoms and how bad is it?
Yeah.
So the most important symptom is conjunctivitis, uh, that we're seeing.
So the pink eye that you can get with other infections as well.
Um, fluey symptoms, people feeling fatigued, you know,
muscle aches, that sort of thing.
Um, we're not seeing too much in the way of respiratory symptoms because the
infections we're seeing right now by and large are eye infections, not flu.
respiratory infections.
That's good to know.
Dr.
Celine Gounder.
Thank you so much.
Yeah.
It's nothing to be worried about because we're not birds.
These people keep bamboozling you in the book.
It says you can't, if you, if it's a bird flu or bird virus, you're not a bird.
You can't get it.
And the only way you get it, if is they mess with it in a lab and
they culture it in human tissue, and then it becomes, it can.
Replicate in humans, and then it becomes an issue.
This thing that it's going to a cow, and then some, and it's pinkeye.
I don't know, I'm not a farmer, but I'm pretty sure that there's cow shit in a
farm, in a dairy farm, and maybe somebody didn't wash their hands and touched some
cow shit and touched their eye and got pinkeye, cause that's pretty much it.
Pinkeye is fecal matter in the eye, usually.
And just like with the AIDS virus, they came up with some cockamamie
story that some guy had sex with a monkey and got it in Africa and then
spread it around all over the world.
I mean, they, you know, you look at the shit now, back, it's just
ridiculous what they tell you.
Same thing with the COVID.
Somebody ate a bat.
No wet market.
That doesn't happen.
As a human species, we would not be here, we would not make it that long
if we could catch animal viruses.
We'd be dead.
Amount of chickens that people eat, amount of beef that people eat,
the amount of You would be dead.
We wouldn't be here if that worked like that.
They are making this stuff For purposes of selling vaccines and not telling you
and coming up with well, you got it from some animal cats Cats have feline AIDS.
You would be dead if that happened.
You would have AIDS from cats You it would you'd be dead cats have
many diseases people have Everybody has, a lot of people have cats.
A cat shits in your house in a box, and then walks around, buries it,
and then walks around and steps on your face and stuff like that.
If, if diseases worked like that, you would be dead.
This is all made up.
This is all fake.
Oh man, and on that note, that'll do it for me.
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