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Thanks so much for joining us.

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I'm Jimmy McKay.

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I'll be your host of today's webinar.

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Really a conversation.

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We called it a webinar.

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It's not gonna be as serious,

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but it will be very impactful.

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The Academy of Orthopedic

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Physical Therapy is excited

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to solve some of your

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frequently asked questions.

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things around the idea of

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becoming an orthopedic

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clinical specialist.

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That's why you're here.

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You have questions, we have answers.

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And by we,

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I mean our guest expert today

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Now, some physics about this platform.

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I see some of you coming in live.

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Is this really live?

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Well, you can test me right now.

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Go below and drop a comment.

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Maybe let us know where you're from.

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Are you a practicing physical therapist?

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Are you a student physical

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therapist who's thinking

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about maybe one day

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becoming an orthopedic

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clinical specialist?

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So drop a comment below.

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This is meant to be interactive.

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We are, in fact, live right now,

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I promise.

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And the way you can check me

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is by dropping a comment.

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If you have any specific

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questions right now or during the webinar,

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feel free to ask those in the comments.

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We're not going to ignore you.

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We're actually going to

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answer some of those

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comments at the end of our

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set webinar discussion.

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So we see some comments

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coming in right now, and that's great.

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Jeff Seymour,

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looking forward to hearing from Jeff.

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Thanks, Greg.

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Mike Rhodes, PT from Kentucky.

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Devin, a PT in Wisconsin.

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Great beer lining Kugel out in Wisconsin.

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All right,

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I see a bunch of you already lined up.

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Again, if you have a question or a comment,

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drop it down below.

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And without further ado,

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and you know how much I do love some ado,

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your expert today answering

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your questions is an

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assistant professor at the

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University of North Carolina,

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director of the Orthopedic

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Physical Therapy Residency,

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board certified clinical

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specialist in orthopedics,

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and a fellow of the

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American Academy of

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Orthopedic Manual Physical Therapists.

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That is a lot of letters after his name.

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We're going to cut through

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all that and get to your questions.

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Let's bring in our expert today,

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Jeff O'Loughlin.

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jeff welcome to your live

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stream hello how's everyone

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doing uh jeff we're gonna

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go through the list of

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frequently asked questions

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but they're what I like to

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look at is frequent worries

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and when you remove the

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worries things get a little

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more clear so it's all

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around the question

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Should I become an

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orthopedic clinical specialist?

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And if so,

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what other questions might I have?

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So let's jump in and ask

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about the prerequisites.

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This has got to be the first thing, right?

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The start from the start.

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What are the prerequisites

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and eligibility

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requirements for taking the OCS exam?

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There are really two

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pathways you can take.

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One is you go through

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orthopedic residency program.

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By sitting and completing

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the orthopedic residency program,

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that satisfies the

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requirements to be able to

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sit and then hopefully pass

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the exam to become an

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orthopedic clinical specialist.

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You do not have to go

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through a residency program

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to be eligible to sit.

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However,

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then you do need to hit some of

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the other criteria,

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such as the number of hours

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worked in an orthopedic setting,

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including the number of

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hours within the past three

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years or so for that concentration.

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You really need to have

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over 2,000 hours in an orthopedic setting.

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And 500 of those 2,000 hours

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have to be within the last three years.

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And so you do have to have

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that clinical experience in

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that sense to sit for that exam.

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And then once you have

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satisfied those requirements,

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you need to apply for, sit,

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and then pass that

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orthopedic exam to then

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have that designation of

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orthopedic clinical specialist.

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Perfect.

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Well said.

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Now,

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the next question that people are

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probably wondering about is,

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how long do I actually need

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realistically to prepare

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for the OCS exam?

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And I feel like an it

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depends might be in there,

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but I want to go deeper.

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I'm not going to let you stop it.

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It depends.

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How much time would you

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realistically suggest

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someone prepare so they

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feel confident and

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competent and to do it well?

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Well, to not mislead any of the audience,

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it does depend.

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And a lot of that is also

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dependent on the pathway you choose.

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So one way I also think

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about that is look at the

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deadlines for when you

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could apply and then when

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the exam occurs.

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The application is at the

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end of September and the

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exam is the end of February

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and then early March,

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that testing window.

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And a very reasonable

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expectation would be

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probably about that five months.

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A lot of programs from

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MedBridge to other OCS prep

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courses say they take about 20 weeks.

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Some of the more condensed

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courses I've seen are even

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as little as eight weeks.

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But that also then depends

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on your bandwidth,

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how you are trying to study.

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Are you doing this in

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addition to your normal 40-hour work week,

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your clinical practice,

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your other responsibilities

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and things that may be

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going on in your personal life?

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So you do need to know what

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your bandwidth and availability is.

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It is good to be able to pace yourself.

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Thinking about all of those

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things you have going in

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life will dictate where that's at,

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but a very reasonable

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timeframe would be to allow

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probably between that four

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to five month timeframe,

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depending on how much time

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you feel you can devote to

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strictly studying for the OCS.

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Great advice.

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Yeah.

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Sounds like a self-assessment and a life.

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Where are you in life assessment?

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And then from there,

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work backwards from from the test date.

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Let's let's move on.

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Right.

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Whether you're climbing a mountain,

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running a marathon or, you know,

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buying a house,

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it's all about the materials.

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What do I need to get to prepare myself?

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And I think I feel like the

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OCS is no different.

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So what study materials and

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resources might you

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recommend that would be an

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effective OCS exam

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preparation for someone?

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Well,

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one great resource is the Academy of

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Orthopedic Physical Therapy.

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They have a number of very,

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very good resources.

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If you are a member of it,

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you have access to all the

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clinical practice guidelines,

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things like that,

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which are a great place to start.

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Another great resource is

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their independent study courses,

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specifically Current Concepts.

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Current Concepts is a series

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of monographs.

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There are 11 different regions.

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including clinical reasoning.

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But the current concepts are

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curated current best

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evidence that will take you

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through all of the

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different regions that will

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be explored on the exam from diagnosis,

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evaluation, prognosis.

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It's 800 plus pages of

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material that works out to

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about just around 100 hours.

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I mean,

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it's 96 hours of continuing education.

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That is a fantastic resource.

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There are other great

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resources there as well.

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MedBridge has their own OCS

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prep course and their

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online platform for continuing education.

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There are a number of very

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good podcasts as well from

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like the OCS Field Guide.

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And then I wrote down the names of the,

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I want to get their names correct.

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So OCS Field Guide is,

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there are two PTs that like

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to do it and they give them

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in very accessible chunks.

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It's Dr. David Smelser and

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Dr. Austin Kirchville.

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I personally haven't

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listened to them when I

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went through my OCS training,

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but I do know a number of

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people that have,

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and they've all said very,

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very good things about them.

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And then there's also an OCS

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prep podcast from two other PTs,

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Dr. Alex Hutchinson and Dr.

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Amanda Everdeen.

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Those podcasts from people

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that I've known and have gone through it

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have said they are very, very good.

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And then naturally, as you do that,

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certain ones will also have

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some that are free or some

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that you can pay for

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additional additional resources.

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But that is that is where

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where I would start.

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Be prepared.

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Boy Scout motto right there.

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So we'll begin with the preparation.

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So a good list there.

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We do want to remind people,

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I see some questions coming in.

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Not ignoring you.

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We'll get to those at the end.

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I want to make sure we hit

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the high-level stuff first.

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We might actually answer some of those.

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But feel free to drop those

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comments below.

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Now let's get into...

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the OCS.

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Let's get into,

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help me understand the

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overview of those key

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content areas that the OCS

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is actually covering.

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It feels like we might be

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cheating a little bit,

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but you have to know and

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understand the test that

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you're gonna prepare for.

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So this is a good thing.

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It might feel like cheating, but it's not,

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it's just good preparation.

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So what are those key

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content areas that the OCS

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will quiz you on?

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Well,

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one of the nice things with the OCS

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is it does try to mimic

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clinical practice.

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Naturally,

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if you specialize in other areas,

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you might see more or less of that.

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But even if you're going

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through Abtree's webpage

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and the description of specialty practice,

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they will break this down

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for you percentage-wise by

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content area and then also

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tested by region.

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So for example,

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you're going to get more

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questions based on the lumbar spine,

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just based off prevalence,

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than oral facial pain or

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craniomandibular dysfunctions.

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So those exact percentages

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you can look up there,

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but I do have them here.

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So happy to share as so you

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don't need to go look for that.

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But I mean,

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the big areas outside of the

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geographic regions are

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going to be you need to

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know your anatomy and physiology.

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Like everything falls back

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onto anatomy and physiology.

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You want to really know that.

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You'd want to be aware of

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things like movement science, pathology,

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pathophysiology.

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And also we see post-op and

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medical patients as well.

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So medical, surgical interventions,

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things like that, how to, you know,

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rehab following those types

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of conditions.

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Evaluation, diagnosis, prognosis, you know,

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examination, intervention.

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These are things that we are

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doing all the time in

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clinical practice and

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that you are going to then

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be questioned on in a

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standardized format to then

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feel that you have a strong

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grasp of that material and

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can feel confident in

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saying you are an expert in

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this subspecialty of physical therapy.

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Great.

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Now people are going to get worried,

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or maybe it was just me hearing this,

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right?

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I know this might be a, it depends,

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but maybe some best practices.

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What study strategies or

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tips might you suggest for

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retaining and understanding

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this vast amount of information?

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I feel like that might be

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one barrier people might be

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nervous about out there.

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There's a lot of information.

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So you've done this yourself.

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You've helped people through this.

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What study strategies or

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tips might you suggest?

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The one very good one is you

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aren't alone doing this.

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There's a lot of people that

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do this each and every year.

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It is a lot of information.

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And to perform optimally

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when that exam date comes,

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it is that Boy Scout model

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of be prepared or have that

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schedule laid out in advance.

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Know how you study and retain information.

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Some people are more kinesthetic.

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Some people are more auditory.

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Some people are more

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read write like repeat some

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people would uh wants to be

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in small groups other

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people want larger groups

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so it's not a

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one-size-fits-all it's

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really a knowing yourself

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and surrounding yourself in

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that type of community um

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because if you're someone

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that does better

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independently or in a small

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group and suddenly there's

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10 12 people in a room and

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everyone's talking that

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might not be as ideal a

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situation for you to try to

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retain that information

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And then naturally one of

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the best ways to feel that

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you have a firm grasp of

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the information is to teach

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it or create a scenario

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where you need to apply it.

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So if you're looking at

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things that could be

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intervention or whatnot, it's, you know,

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go to your coworkers, practice it.

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Hey, practice this.

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Can I show you this?

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You know, try to make it,

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whatever makes it sink in for you.

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And also it is a lot.

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So,

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you need to take breaks and

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you still need to do your own self-care.

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Sleep matters.

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If you're someone that's an avid exerciser,

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that matters.

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You have to still do all of

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those things you need to do

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beyond just focus on this

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one test or this one task.

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You do want to be able to

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focus and devote sufficient

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time and attention to it,

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which it might...

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rise up the order of

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priorities compared to other things,

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but you can't just neglect

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that other aspect of what's

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going on in your life.

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Sure.

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So not just necessarily about the test.

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So we do wanna remind people

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if they have questions, fire those away.

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We do have some people saying hi.

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Kathleen says she went to PT

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school with you, Jeff, saying hi.

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Anthony from New Jersey,

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physical therapist.

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May from Tacoma, Washington.

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Noom saying hi to a buddy.

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And we'll get to some of your questions.

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If you're asking those in

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the comments below, we will get to those.

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But here's another question for you, Jeff,

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that you have some specialty behind.

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Let's talk about residency

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and fellowship programs.

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How might those types of

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programs enhance

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preparation for this OCS examination?

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So one thing with the

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residency is it lets you,

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even right out of school,

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be able to then sit for

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that exam once you've

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completed the residency.

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So instead of 2,000 hours or

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doing those other different things,

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there are all those requirements.

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Residency programs can vary in size.

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Some are as small as just one individual,

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and others have multiple

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residents across multiple sites.

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But a residency is also

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curated information

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designed to help prepare

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you to take the OCS exam.

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So you have experts in your field,

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mentors that are going to

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spend time with you to help

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refine that practice,

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to bounce ideas off of, to discuss.

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If you have a cohort,

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you now have a built-in study group.

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Other people that have

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signed up for that same year, 55 weeks,

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13, whatever,

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the duration of your

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residency program is from

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10 months to even longer

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that have signed up to do

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that same thing.

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So take advantage of the

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other people doing the same thing.

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You don't have to go out looking for that.

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That's built in for you from

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these are the things that

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we would prioritize focusing on.

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To, hey, looking at the evidence,

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the mentors,

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faculty of a program are

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selecting and providing

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some of that for you.

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So instead of seeking out

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what might be best evidence on your own,

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you have someone else who

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has developed that didactic

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or that curriculum for you.

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And then in any residency program,

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if you're trying to be an

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expert in clinical practice,

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having that mentoring and

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that feedback in clinic is invaluable.

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So, you know,

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being able to to have those

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ongoing discussions throughout the year,

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that immediate feedback,

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that improvement of skill

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and application of that

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skill or evidence is is just invaluable.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well said.

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Good insight.

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Let's talk about common challenges.

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Things are scary when we

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don't know they're coming,

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but we know something's coming.

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Or if we're worried about it

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over and over and over again,

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typically just learning

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about it can make it at

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least a little bit less scary.

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So let's talk about maybe

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common challenges

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candidates might face

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during their OCS exam preparation.

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What are some of those

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challenges and how might

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you suggest they overcome some of those?

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One of the biggest

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challenges is not making an

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appropriate schedule

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because if it isn't scheduled,

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it's very easy to deviate

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from that and then try to play catch up.

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And then when you play catch up,

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you feel like you just

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can't ever catch up, which leads to that.

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You could say that that fatigue like that,

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that is a real thing.

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If you're already doing 40

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hours of work trying to do

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this on top of that,

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have your family life.

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It's the if it's not built

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into the schedule,

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it's going to get pulled away.

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And then you're going to put

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extra stress on yourself.

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Other other things I kind of

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alluded to earlier is it

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becomes that sole focus

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where then you don't

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maintain those other

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aspects that let you stay balanced.

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You know, your social engagements,

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your sleep, your things like that.

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And also people don't

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realize how much they actually know.

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Now,

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it's you're going to go over that

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information.

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And when you're taking an

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exam such as this,

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you have to use the information provided.

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And everyone's most

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important tool is their

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brain and their clinical reasoning.

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And so when in back,

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when you're in those situations,

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the experts do the basics well.

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So actually take a step back, you know,

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read the question,

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look at the information you

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have there and then reason

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your way through it.

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I mean,

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that can even be more during the

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exam than during the prep.

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But as you go through those

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different aspects of it, it is.

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Calm down.

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Take do some breathing.

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Like like it can be cliche,

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but there are those

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breathing exercises that

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can can change you from a

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more sympathetic state to a

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parasympathetic state to

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allow you to think more clearly.

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Chunking the information, you know,

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what works for you, doing it in smaller,

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smaller amounts can be very beneficial.

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Then again,

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if your schedule doesn't allow

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it and you have to do it.

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You need to adapt to what

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works best for you.

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But the biggest thing is

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going to be that fatigue.

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And also, if you're worried about it,

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take practice exams.

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There are practice exams out

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there to get an idea of

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what these questions will be like.

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And some of the prep

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material will give you more

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detailed responses than others.

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But things like MedBridge,

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they'll give you,

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after you take a practice exam,

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feedback on

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each of those different

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areas where you did well,

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where did you struggle?

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So that can also let you

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focus a little bit more on

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areas that you want to improve.

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If I did a practice exam and

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did very poor in hip and

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did poor in hip anatomy,

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I might want to spend a

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little bit more time on

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that as opposed to say,

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I did really well on the knee,

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but I really liked the knee.

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Well,

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if I'm naturally like the knee and I

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spend more time studying what I'm good at,

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you're making a strength stronger,

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but you're not helping the

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area that might help you overall.

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So it's being aware of your

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strengths and your

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weaknesses and using your

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time accordingly.

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All right.

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This is the part of the

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video that we get to do

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some visualizations.

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Here's what I want people to do.

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I want them to visualize exam day.

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Right.

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But everything that we just

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talked about with Jeff,

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it's going to help you that

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stress level come right down.

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So the final thing would be, Jeff,

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what should they expect on exam day?

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Like help them understand

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what that is so they can visualize it.

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So hopefully they feel a

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little more confident.

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So they take that.

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And then how can they best

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manage some of that stress?

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You mentioned a few ideas

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during the actual exam.

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So one thing with that is

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this exam does take place

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in like the pro metrics

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standardized testing sites.

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So you would want to sign up

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for a site close to you,

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but you may or may not be

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familiar with where it's at.

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So knowing where you're

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going and getting there

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early on exam day can make

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a big difference.

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And also knowing on exam day,

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it is a secure site.

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So you're going to go in,

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you're going to have to

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empty your pockets,

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you're going to have to not

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have your phone or anything else on you.

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And then also,

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since this is a standardized testing site,

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not everyone is taking the same test.

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So you just focus on you and

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not anyone else can help.

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But I mean, it is a marathon of a test.

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You have seven hours to complete it.

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You have four different blocks.

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Each block is 90 minutes.

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Um, and you don't get to bank time.

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So if I finished block one early,

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I don't get extra time in, in a,

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in a separate block.

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Um,

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but between each block you can get a 10

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minute break in between

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block three and block four,

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you can have an even longer break.

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So if you're someone that wants to get up,

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stretch, move around, do it, do what,

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what you need to do for that.

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But, you know,

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the best advice would be

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know where you're going, get there early.

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Um, and then, I mean, come,

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come that exam day, that's,

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that's the day to perform.

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But I mean,

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if you're looking at this as a

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seven hour exam,

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you need to make sure you've eaten well,

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you've slept well, and that, that,

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that you can go in and

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you're trying to set that

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up where you can perform best.

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But, but it is a lot, it is a long exam.

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Yeah.

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sounds like it yeah some

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advice for my former uh

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triathlon coach was uh plan

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your race and then race

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your plan so everything

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leading up to that exam day

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feels like your plan you're

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training just for that and

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then hopefully exam day

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actually feels a little bit

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like a victory lap now you

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get to show off and

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actually perform all the

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things you just did for the

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uh previous preparation

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time and it is one of those

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exams that no matter how

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much you prepare it is a

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hard exam sure and

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you're not going to know everything, but

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you have the tools and the

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materials by your

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preparation to be successful for it.

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Over 21,000 PTs have gone through it.

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And it is a very nice thing, which I mean,

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when you even think of the

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OCS or that amount,

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that might sound like a lot,

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but that is still well

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under 10% of the total PTs.

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I think in 2023,

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it was something like six

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or 7% are PTs that have earned their OCS.

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So it does put you into a

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more exclusive group,

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but it shows that it is doable.

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And there are those that have done it.

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So use them to help you and

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set yourself up for success.

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Great motivation.

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All right.

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You okay with taking some

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questions from the audience

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that's watching and listening live?

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Absolutely.

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All right.

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Mike asks this.

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You mentioned the,

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we'll say robustness of current concepts.

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Mike wants to know, hey, listen,

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do I need to go cover to

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cover and read all of the

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current concepts resource?

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What do you think?

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So holistically,

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it covers all of that material.

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But you can also,

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through the independent study courses,

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you could buy the lumbar

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spine or even the lower quarter.

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You could buy specific

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monographs or look at

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specific monographs where

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you don't necessarily need to say,

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I want to do all of them.

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But as an entire resource,

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it is very good.

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it is something that I would

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encourage but do you have

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to absolutely not yeah good

00:24:05.744 --> 00:24:06.704
question mike and again

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we'll remind everybody

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watching live anyway or if

00:24:09.646 --> 00:24:10.747
you're watching a replay on

00:24:10.807 --> 00:24:11.907
one of the platforms feel

00:24:11.928 --> 00:24:13.429
free to ask a question

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we'll see if we can get

00:24:14.128 --> 00:24:15.930
back to you later uh this

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one we might uh I'm not

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sure if you know this one

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jeff this one seems new

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hillary wants to know can

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you speak to the upcoming

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new initial certification

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requirements for the exam I

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am not familiar

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So they are going to take place in 2026.

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And the biggest change with

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the requirements are going

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to be related to the hours.

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The 2000 hours,

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they're going to want to

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see an actual breakdown by

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body regions that might

00:24:43.518 --> 00:24:44.917
mimic that exam more.

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Where going through different things,

00:24:48.179 --> 00:24:49.479
you need to say, hey,

00:24:49.659 --> 00:24:50.838
currently I've done 2000

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hours or 500 hours in this

00:24:53.440 --> 00:24:54.960
setting within the last three years.

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Well,

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what if I'm working in a spine center

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and I'm doing 2000 hours

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primarily of lumbar spine, cervical spine,

00:25:01.622 --> 00:25:02.422
thoracic spine?

00:25:03.393 --> 00:25:04.534
Well, in 2026,

00:25:04.534 --> 00:25:06.036
they're going to want to

00:25:06.056 --> 00:25:07.136
still see that you've seen

00:25:07.196 --> 00:25:08.298
knees or shoulders or

00:25:08.439 --> 00:25:11.321
ankles and that you have that breath.

00:25:11.942 --> 00:25:14.365
So those requirements aren't

00:25:14.424 --> 00:25:17.387
going to go into effect for

00:25:17.448 --> 00:25:19.089
this cycle or the next cycle,

00:25:19.170 --> 00:25:22.773
but they do go into 2026.

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There isn't a change

00:25:23.734 --> 00:25:24.615
necessarily if you're going

00:25:24.655 --> 00:25:25.957
through a residency program.

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And either way,

00:25:27.638 --> 00:25:28.859
once you once you've hit

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that the hours also by those body regions,

00:25:34.144 --> 00:25:37.468
you will then still have to apply for sit,

00:25:37.567 --> 00:25:39.148
take and pass the exam.

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So that is that is the

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biggest that's the biggest

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change in eligibility to to

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sit for the exam, Hillary.

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Good to know.

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Mike, Hillary, thanks for the questions.

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If anybody is watching live

00:25:50.354 --> 00:25:52.115
and has a question, I would ask it soon.

00:25:52.255 --> 00:25:53.936
One more thing I would want to bring up,

00:25:54.637 --> 00:25:54.798
Jeff,

00:25:54.817 --> 00:25:57.279
you did mention current concepts as

00:25:57.359 --> 00:25:58.761
a resource from the Academy

00:25:58.781 --> 00:26:00.903
of Orthopedic Physical Therapy, curated,

00:26:01.084 --> 00:26:02.444
updated every couple of years.

00:26:03.326 --> 00:26:04.425
from some experts,

00:26:04.605 --> 00:26:05.767
the experts in orthopedic

00:26:05.787 --> 00:26:06.527
physical therapy.

00:26:07.406 --> 00:26:08.367
You mentioned this clinical

00:26:08.407 --> 00:26:09.347
practice guidelines

00:26:09.428 --> 00:26:10.888
produced by the Academy of

00:26:10.949 --> 00:26:12.128
Orthopedic Physical Therapy.

00:26:12.528 --> 00:26:13.169
Those are free,

00:26:13.470 --> 00:26:16.109
access those now at orthopt.org.

00:26:16.931 --> 00:26:19.070
And the communications team

00:26:19.491 --> 00:26:21.031
made up by Mariah and Amber

00:26:21.392 --> 00:26:23.073
and Sharon and Tara have

00:26:23.113 --> 00:26:24.393
put together another resource.

00:26:24.413 --> 00:26:25.634
This is an entire page

00:26:26.615 --> 00:26:27.977
that we are adding to

00:26:28.458 --> 00:26:31.280
consistently with free and

00:26:31.520 --> 00:26:34.223
some membership benefits resources.

00:26:34.324 --> 00:26:35.665
If you're preparing for the

00:26:35.766 --> 00:26:36.846
OCS examination,

00:26:37.207 --> 00:26:39.710
you find this at orthopt.org,

00:26:40.069 --> 00:26:42.532
just search OCS in the search bar there,

00:26:42.573 --> 00:26:43.053
that'll come up.

00:26:43.713 --> 00:26:45.496
And like this webinar that

00:26:45.516 --> 00:26:46.676
we're doing live right now,

00:26:46.737 --> 00:26:48.858
there are also some resources available

00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:52.304
through AOPT's YouTube channel, video-wise,

00:26:52.824 --> 00:26:54.165
as well as their new podcast,

00:26:54.286 --> 00:26:54.967
Orthostatic.

00:26:55.208 --> 00:26:57.049
So we appreciate there.

00:26:57.451 --> 00:26:59.512
Anthony, we'll get to your last question.

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How are the hours broken

00:27:01.935 --> 00:27:03.699
down by regions verified?

00:27:06.538 --> 00:27:09.138
I haven't seen the forms for that,

00:27:09.199 --> 00:27:11.358
but my understanding of

00:27:11.459 --> 00:27:13.019
what I have heard is that

00:27:13.059 --> 00:27:15.740
it's going to be more of self-reporting.

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And then when you submit your hours,

00:27:18.961 --> 00:27:21.102
you do also need to have it,

00:27:21.721 --> 00:27:24.002
if you're a staff clinician somewhere,

00:27:24.563 --> 00:27:26.323
you say, I've done these hours here,

00:27:26.723 --> 00:27:29.503
and it gets sent to, you could say,

00:27:29.544 --> 00:27:30.505
your clinic manager to

00:27:30.545 --> 00:27:31.605
verify those hours.

00:27:32.204 --> 00:27:33.306
And that would also go into,

00:27:33.346 --> 00:27:34.586
I saw Devin had a question

00:27:34.626 --> 00:27:36.748
about maintaining OCS certification.

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That is going through that

00:27:39.128 --> 00:27:40.970
same MOSC platform,

00:27:41.150 --> 00:27:42.270
the maintenance of your

00:27:42.310 --> 00:27:43.511
specialty certification,

00:27:43.932 --> 00:27:46.773
where when you report those hours,

00:27:47.233 --> 00:27:47.773
you say, hey,

00:27:47.814 --> 00:27:48.835
I've worked in this setting

00:27:49.494 --> 00:27:51.817
for these dates at 40 hours a week,

00:27:51.856 --> 00:27:54.739
this equals 2000 hours, whatever.

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And you need to include like

00:27:57.259 --> 00:27:58.480
your clinic manager or

00:27:58.560 --> 00:28:00.301
whoever to acknowledge that

00:28:00.342 --> 00:28:01.323
that has taken place.

00:28:02.963 --> 00:28:04.025
I haven't heard that it's

00:28:04.045 --> 00:28:05.626
going to be any different than that.

00:28:06.847 --> 00:28:07.749
But again,

00:28:07.808 --> 00:28:11.092
we have about two years to wait

00:28:11.152 --> 00:28:13.273
and see as they come forward.

00:28:13.954 --> 00:28:15.036
Hey, take it this year.

00:28:15.675 --> 00:28:16.237
Take it this year.

00:28:16.257 --> 00:28:17.057
You don't have to worry about it, right?

00:28:17.097 --> 00:28:17.178
Yeah.

00:28:17.999 --> 00:28:18.179
Yeah.

00:28:19.772 --> 00:28:21.775
And then even following up with that,

00:28:22.275 --> 00:28:24.116
Devin, with the OCS certification.

00:28:24.577 --> 00:28:27.740
So the MOSC, it's over the 10 years.

00:28:28.622 --> 00:28:29.643
You have three different

00:28:29.682 --> 00:28:31.305
cycles and then year 10.

00:28:31.305 --> 00:28:32.967
And in each of those three cycles,

00:28:33.126 --> 00:28:36.089
the intent of that is to

00:28:36.250 --> 00:28:37.490
not get to year 10 and then

00:28:37.510 --> 00:28:38.491
try to curate all the

00:28:38.531 --> 00:28:39.452
information you have.

00:28:39.472 --> 00:28:39.834
Right.

00:28:40.674 --> 00:28:43.778
It keeps you current throughout to say,

00:28:43.838 --> 00:28:45.500
I've been doing this staying current.

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These are my hours,

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these different things.

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And then if you've done that

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with each cycle at year 10,

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there is a hundred question

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exam that you take.

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But for the reaccreditation exam,

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it is an open book exam

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should you choose to do that.

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It's four blocks of 25 questions.

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You have essentially two

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months from when you start

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that block of questions and

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then you complete those and

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that then gets sent to

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complete that

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reaccreditation after 10 years.

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right looks like we have

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about a minute left so

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maybe we can get jordan's

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question in there and sneak

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it in would you expect any

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significant changes in the

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maintenance process after

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certification you're just

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talking about the

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maintenance process there a

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little bit uh not not that

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not that I've heard of um

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and so if there is anything

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in the works I'm not aware

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of that at this point that

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is uh you know where where

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it's going in and going to

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maintain um but but I

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actually don't know the

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answer to that jordan

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Okay.

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Sounds great.

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Jeff,

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a good 30 minutes chock full of

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things that I hope the

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people that were watching

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live and watching the replay are saying,

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okay, this is the tip of the iceberg.

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If you have any more questions,

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feel free to drop them in

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the comments below and

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we'll see if we can get

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back to you with those answers.

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The resources that we

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mentioned are available now

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at orthopt.org.

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Jeff, a lot of information in 30 minutes.

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We appreciate your time.

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Thank you.

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And if you have any questions,

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I'm pretty easy to find.

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And if you have any specific

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questions for me,

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my email is my first name

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underscore last name at med.unc.edu.

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So happy to help out any way

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or answer any questions if

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you didn't get it answered

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today during this live stream.

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Thanks so much.

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All right.

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On behalf of the Academy of

00:30:44.232 --> 00:30:45.232
Orthopedic Physical Therapy,

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thanks for watching.

