1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:03,859 At athenahealth, 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,899 we know your ambulatory practice wants healthier, 3 00:00:07,279 --> 00:00:10,160 a healthier business, healthier care teams, and healthier 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:10,660 patients. 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,275 But the complexities of modern health care tech 6 00:00:13,275 --> 00:00:15,275 make it hard for you and your care 7 00:00:15,275 --> 00:00:17,214 teams to focus on what matters most. 8 00:00:17,594 --> 00:00:20,734 That's where athenahealth can help. Our AI native 9 00:00:20,795 --> 00:00:23,535 all in one solutions reduce administrative burdens, 10 00:00:23,914 --> 00:00:26,820 streamline billing and payments, and deliver critical insights 11 00:00:26,899 --> 00:00:29,779 when clinicians need it most. That means fewer 12 00:00:29,779 --> 00:00:32,500 clicks, more time for patients, and stronger bottom 13 00:00:32,500 --> 00:00:33,000 lines. 14 00:00:33,700 --> 00:00:36,899 Practicing medicine is complex, but running a practice 15 00:00:36,899 --> 00:00:38,759 can be that much simpler with athenahealth. 16 00:00:39,515 --> 00:00:43,135 See how simpler is healthier@athenahealth.com. 17 00:00:44,715 --> 00:00:46,155 Hi, everyone. This is Scott King with the 18 00:00:46,155 --> 00:00:48,875 Becker's Healthcare podcast. Thrilled today to be joined 19 00:00:48,875 --> 00:00:51,835 by a very special guest, Reed Smith, chief 20 00:00:51,835 --> 00:00:54,530 consumer officer with Ardent Health. Reed, how are 21 00:00:54,530 --> 00:00:55,729 you doing today? Thanks so much for joining 22 00:00:55,729 --> 00:00:57,489 us. Yeah. Thanks for having me. Good to 23 00:00:57,489 --> 00:00:59,170 be here. Yeah. I think we're gonna dive 24 00:00:59,170 --> 00:01:01,250 into some kind of big topics and and 25 00:01:01,250 --> 00:01:02,390 conversations happening 26 00:01:02,850 --> 00:01:05,170 right now in health care, Reed. But before 27 00:01:05,170 --> 00:01:07,534 we get started and get to some questions, 28 00:01:07,534 --> 00:01:08,575 can you just tell us a little bit 29 00:01:08,575 --> 00:01:10,015 about your background and your work in health 30 00:01:10,015 --> 00:01:10,754 care, please? 31 00:01:11,295 --> 00:01:12,114 Yeah. Absolutely. 32 00:01:13,135 --> 00:01:14,974 You know, it's funny. It feels like not 33 00:01:14,974 --> 00:01:17,534 very long ago, but it's been probably close 34 00:01:17,534 --> 00:01:19,075 to twenty five years now. 35 00:01:19,479 --> 00:01:20,879 I took my first job in health care 36 00:01:20,879 --> 00:01:23,039 as the director of marketing, at a hospital 37 00:01:23,039 --> 00:01:24,659 in Central Texas. And 38 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,560 over the years, I spent time at the 39 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,939 Texas Hospital Association 40 00:01:28,399 --> 00:01:31,039 and and consulting and at different places, and 41 00:01:31,039 --> 00:01:32,340 then now have been here 42 00:01:32,799 --> 00:01:35,594 at Arden Health for the last, four years 43 00:01:35,594 --> 00:01:38,474 or so, leading everything this consumer facing. So 44 00:01:38,474 --> 00:01:40,094 I've got a little oversight of 45 00:01:40,474 --> 00:01:41,454 marketing communications, 46 00:01:41,834 --> 00:01:44,634 a lot of our consumer faced technology, our 47 00:01:44,634 --> 00:01:46,655 contact centers, referral teams, 48 00:01:47,354 --> 00:01:48,814 all that kind of fun stuff. 49 00:01:49,659 --> 00:01:51,760 That's wonderful. I think it's a really interesting 50 00:01:51,980 --> 00:01:54,380 career trajectory you you've had, actually. Let me 51 00:01:54,380 --> 00:01:55,200 ask you about 52 00:01:55,579 --> 00:01:57,500 starting starting out or or being a director 53 00:01:57,500 --> 00:01:59,020 of marketing early in your career and and, 54 00:01:59,020 --> 00:02:01,500 like you said, having some communications experience. How 55 00:02:01,500 --> 00:02:03,340 does that kind of pave the way for 56 00:02:03,340 --> 00:02:04,400 the rest of your career? 57 00:02:05,015 --> 00:02:06,854 You know, it's funny. I I I think 58 00:02:06,854 --> 00:02:08,455 back to that point in time, and a 59 00:02:08,455 --> 00:02:11,175 lot of people will, probably appreciate this. They're 60 00:02:11,175 --> 00:02:13,034 listening to podcast, but we had, 61 00:02:13,895 --> 00:02:15,735 recently signed on with the Studer Group, and 62 00:02:15,735 --> 00:02:16,955 we're doing a lot of 63 00:02:17,254 --> 00:02:19,754 experience based initiatives. And at the time, 64 00:02:20,379 --> 00:02:22,539 that was kinda handed to me as, as 65 00:02:22,539 --> 00:02:23,519 the quote, unquote, 66 00:02:24,060 --> 00:02:25,120 initiative champion. 67 00:02:25,580 --> 00:02:27,180 And I remember at the time thinking, you 68 00:02:27,180 --> 00:02:29,039 know, as the director of marketing communications, 69 00:02:29,819 --> 00:02:30,799 why in the world 70 00:02:31,180 --> 00:02:32,319 would I be leading, 71 00:02:32,985 --> 00:02:35,385 an experience initiative? And I know that that 72 00:02:35,385 --> 00:02:36,685 that sounds weird today, 73 00:02:36,985 --> 00:02:38,504 but at the time, those felt like two 74 00:02:38,504 --> 00:02:40,284 totally different things. And so, 75 00:02:40,585 --> 00:02:42,905 you know, it's been, very I've been very 76 00:02:42,905 --> 00:02:44,425 fortunate, I guess, in a lot of ways 77 00:02:44,425 --> 00:02:45,784 that some of the things and some of 78 00:02:45,784 --> 00:02:47,724 the opportunities I had early on, 79 00:02:48,230 --> 00:02:50,710 you know, turns out, you know, this day 80 00:02:50,710 --> 00:02:52,629 and age, it's really hard to delineate where 81 00:02:52,629 --> 00:02:54,550 one starts and the other one stops. And 82 00:02:54,550 --> 00:02:56,230 I think we're seeing that a lot across 83 00:02:56,230 --> 00:02:56,969 the industry, 84 00:02:57,430 --> 00:02:58,650 certainly in and amongst, 85 00:02:59,270 --> 00:03:01,430 our organization as you think about what used 86 00:03:01,430 --> 00:03:02,969 to be maybe siloed departments, 87 00:03:04,224 --> 00:03:06,944 our functions within the organization. It's it's much 88 00:03:06,944 --> 00:03:08,004 more of a cohesive, 89 00:03:08,865 --> 00:03:10,705 way that we think about things, especially as 90 00:03:10,705 --> 00:03:11,844 it relates to the consumer. 91 00:03:13,025 --> 00:03:15,425 Absolutely. And getting to your role now and 92 00:03:15,425 --> 00:03:17,185 things that are happening in health care right 93 00:03:17,185 --> 00:03:17,685 now, 94 00:03:18,099 --> 00:03:18,840 what opportunities 95 00:03:19,620 --> 00:03:21,800 and headwinds do you have your eye on 96 00:03:21,860 --> 00:03:22,680 as we speak? 97 00:03:23,379 --> 00:03:25,000 Yeah. I mean, headwinds are probably 98 00:03:25,699 --> 00:03:28,260 not much different than everybody listening is dealing 99 00:03:28,260 --> 00:03:29,379 with, you know, with a lot of the 100 00:03:29,379 --> 00:03:30,840 uncertainty in the space. 101 00:03:32,114 --> 00:03:34,194 You know, not not sure, you know, in 102 00:03:34,194 --> 00:03:36,435 the in the, I guess, long term, especially, 103 00:03:36,435 --> 00:03:38,594 but even the near term what, you know, 104 00:03:38,594 --> 00:03:41,234 payment models or, you know, kinda how that's 105 00:03:41,234 --> 00:03:43,655 all gonna be structured and thought about. And, 106 00:03:44,199 --> 00:03:46,699 you know, that that does create certain level 107 00:03:47,239 --> 00:03:49,819 of uncertainty. I think, you know, I'm more, 108 00:03:50,519 --> 00:03:53,239 optimistic in the sense that, I can see 109 00:03:53,239 --> 00:03:55,719 the tailwinds. I can see the expectations of 110 00:03:55,719 --> 00:03:56,634 the consumer 111 00:03:57,414 --> 00:03:59,734 in in our ability to potentially meet people 112 00:03:59,734 --> 00:04:01,574 where they are. You know, and so you 113 00:04:01,574 --> 00:04:03,894 think a lot about virtual care and some 114 00:04:03,894 --> 00:04:05,814 of the the evolution of that over the 115 00:04:05,814 --> 00:04:07,974 last few years, certainly on the telehealth side, 116 00:04:07,974 --> 00:04:10,454 but even remote patient monitoring, the shifting sites 117 00:04:10,454 --> 00:04:11,114 in care, 118 00:04:11,949 --> 00:04:14,510 and really just, you know, what people want 119 00:04:14,510 --> 00:04:16,050 out of the health care system. 120 00:04:16,350 --> 00:04:18,910 I think we're uniquely positioned, and a lot 121 00:04:18,910 --> 00:04:20,910 of us in the industry are uniquely positioned 122 00:04:20,910 --> 00:04:23,230 to deliver on that through some of the 123 00:04:23,230 --> 00:04:24,370 evolution and technology. 124 00:04:25,355 --> 00:04:26,634 You know, we're only a couple of minutes 125 00:04:26,634 --> 00:04:28,495 in, and I'm gonna say the word AI. 126 00:04:29,274 --> 00:04:30,714 But I think we've got a lot of 127 00:04:30,714 --> 00:04:33,435 opportunity both to help those that are delivering 128 00:04:33,435 --> 00:04:35,295 the care and receiving the care. 129 00:04:35,675 --> 00:04:37,194 And so I do. I I think there's 130 00:04:37,194 --> 00:04:38,014 a lot of, 131 00:04:39,029 --> 00:04:40,409 a lot of great opportunity, 132 00:04:41,189 --> 00:04:42,709 and and I feel like we're in a 133 00:04:42,709 --> 00:04:43,689 place where, 134 00:04:44,629 --> 00:04:46,870 both we understand it as an industry of 135 00:04:46,870 --> 00:04:49,289 what the opportunity is, but also the expectation 136 00:04:50,149 --> 00:04:52,229 and the desire from the consumer is there 137 00:04:52,229 --> 00:04:52,889 as well. 138 00:04:53,764 --> 00:04:54,964 Yeah. I I think you make a great 139 00:04:54,964 --> 00:04:57,205 point. And my follow-up question to that is 140 00:04:57,205 --> 00:04:59,685 just with everything going on with, you know, 141 00:04:59,685 --> 00:05:02,585 patients and and health systems and and today's 142 00:05:02,884 --> 00:05:05,285 climate, how vital is it to kind of 143 00:05:05,285 --> 00:05:05,785 approach 144 00:05:06,539 --> 00:05:09,019 issues with a a solution based mindset, kind 145 00:05:09,019 --> 00:05:11,120 of that optimism that you were speaking of? 146 00:05:11,819 --> 00:05:13,819 Yeah. I I think it's important. No. I 147 00:05:13,819 --> 00:05:15,759 wanna I wanna, I guess, 148 00:05:16,699 --> 00:05:18,879 carve out a a little bit here, 149 00:05:19,294 --> 00:05:20,574 a piece where it's like, you know, I 150 00:05:20,574 --> 00:05:22,274 I don't wanna be solution oriented, 151 00:05:23,454 --> 00:05:25,294 where, you know, I've got a a a 152 00:05:25,294 --> 00:05:27,935 solution looking for a problem. Right? So, again, 153 00:05:27,935 --> 00:05:29,714 we we have to make sure that we're 154 00:05:29,935 --> 00:05:32,915 identifying the value that we would be creating, 155 00:05:34,289 --> 00:05:37,269 both for the customer and for the organization. 156 00:05:37,569 --> 00:05:40,209 Right? And so, you know, there's a lot 157 00:05:40,209 --> 00:05:42,649 of really cool shiny objects out there and 158 00:05:42,649 --> 00:05:44,209 a lot of people doing some really cool 159 00:05:44,209 --> 00:05:46,754 things and interesting things. And it may or 160 00:05:46,754 --> 00:05:48,354 may not be a fit for us. Or 161 00:05:48,354 --> 00:05:49,875 just because it is, it doesn't mean it 162 00:05:49,875 --> 00:05:51,235 is for someone else. 163 00:05:51,714 --> 00:05:52,214 But, 164 00:05:53,074 --> 00:05:54,294 I I do think 165 00:05:54,595 --> 00:05:55,254 the opportunity 166 00:05:55,634 --> 00:05:57,014 is to look for, 167 00:05:57,794 --> 00:05:58,294 friction. 168 00:05:58,595 --> 00:06:00,774 We talk about a lot internally, but friction, 169 00:06:01,439 --> 00:06:03,839 with the experience or with the journey a 170 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,019 patient or a consumer may be having. 171 00:06:06,479 --> 00:06:08,000 And, you know, how do you reduce that? 172 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,419 How do you eliminate that, in their lives, 173 00:06:11,039 --> 00:06:13,459 as they, you know, interact with us? 174 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,019 It's kinda how we think about it. 175 00:06:16,814 --> 00:06:18,814 Absolutely. And, you know, in your role as 176 00:06:18,814 --> 00:06:20,735 as a chief consumer officer, you know, you 177 00:06:20,735 --> 00:06:22,975 mentioned kind of the shiny new object. I 178 00:06:22,975 --> 00:06:24,435 I think we're seeing a lot of those 179 00:06:24,495 --> 00:06:26,995 in health care with the way technology has 180 00:06:27,295 --> 00:06:28,194 advanced things. 181 00:06:28,589 --> 00:06:30,669 How do you and your system really kind 182 00:06:30,669 --> 00:06:32,189 of vet, you know, what you call the 183 00:06:32,189 --> 00:06:34,269 shiny new object that that new maybe piece 184 00:06:34,269 --> 00:06:36,750 of technology or or tool that the system 185 00:06:36,750 --> 00:06:38,350 might invest in? How do you kinda do 186 00:06:38,350 --> 00:06:40,529 your homework and and vet that before investing? 187 00:06:41,214 --> 00:06:43,375 Yeah. Absolutely. I'm probably the worst culprit, to 188 00:06:43,375 --> 00:06:44,035 be honest, 189 00:06:44,414 --> 00:06:46,814 relative to, you know, wanting to try something 190 00:06:46,814 --> 00:06:47,634 new. And, 191 00:06:48,334 --> 00:06:49,935 but, you know, you try not to get 192 00:06:49,935 --> 00:06:52,975 just enamored with the product necessarily, but look 193 00:06:52,975 --> 00:06:55,930 for, again, what's the opportunity, what's the value. 194 00:06:55,930 --> 00:06:56,670 And so, 195 00:06:57,610 --> 00:06:58,589 really understanding 196 00:06:58,889 --> 00:07:01,129 the voice of the customer. So that could 197 00:07:01,129 --> 00:07:04,089 be a physician referring into the organization. That 198 00:07:04,089 --> 00:07:05,610 could be a patient looking for care. It 199 00:07:05,610 --> 00:07:06,750 could be a large employer. 200 00:07:07,605 --> 00:07:09,785 But who whoever the consumer is, the stakeholder 201 00:07:09,845 --> 00:07:10,345 is, 202 00:07:10,725 --> 00:07:11,384 you know, 203 00:07:12,004 --> 00:07:13,865 where are they seeing? What do they need? 204 00:07:14,004 --> 00:07:16,004 Where are they giving you feedback? And how 205 00:07:16,004 --> 00:07:17,925 do you use that to better a process? 206 00:07:17,925 --> 00:07:20,904 And I think if you can align around, 207 00:07:21,949 --> 00:07:24,129 you know, what the outcome or what success 208 00:07:24,189 --> 00:07:25,710 looks like, you know, where where are you 209 00:07:25,790 --> 00:07:26,689 what's the goal, 210 00:07:27,310 --> 00:07:29,330 I think then you can back into, 211 00:07:30,110 --> 00:07:32,830 is there technology or is this a process 212 00:07:32,830 --> 00:07:34,129 in people and bandwidth, 213 00:07:35,204 --> 00:07:37,685 I guess, solution to solve for? Right? And 214 00:07:37,685 --> 00:07:38,185 so 215 00:07:38,564 --> 00:07:40,165 now once you get to a place that, 216 00:07:40,165 --> 00:07:42,725 yes, maybe technology is the solution or is 217 00:07:42,725 --> 00:07:43,785 part of the solution, 218 00:07:44,245 --> 00:07:46,245 I'm not sure it's ever the solution, but 219 00:07:46,245 --> 00:07:47,225 part of the solution, 220 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,599 I think you've gotta look at and look 221 00:07:49,599 --> 00:07:52,160 at a lot of solutions or providers out 222 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,919 there talk to other people that are in 223 00:07:53,919 --> 00:07:55,699 the space using technology, 224 00:07:56,479 --> 00:07:59,300 get get real world feedback. I would say, 225 00:07:59,725 --> 00:08:01,584 you know, technology outpaces 226 00:08:01,884 --> 00:08:02,625 our ability 227 00:08:03,245 --> 00:08:05,084 to really see it mature in a lot 228 00:08:05,084 --> 00:08:07,485 of times. And so the idea that anything's 229 00:08:07,485 --> 00:08:09,165 gonna come in and be exactly what you 230 00:08:09,165 --> 00:08:10,925 thought and solve every problem you have is 231 00:08:10,925 --> 00:08:12,225 probably slim to none. 232 00:08:13,050 --> 00:08:15,050 And you gotta be okay with that and 233 00:08:15,050 --> 00:08:17,529 be willing to, you know, be nimble and 234 00:08:17,529 --> 00:08:18,589 pivot when needed. 235 00:08:19,370 --> 00:08:21,689 Is there one specific risk or investment you 236 00:08:21,689 --> 00:08:23,289 think is worth making this year for your 237 00:08:23,289 --> 00:08:23,789 system? 238 00:08:24,250 --> 00:08:26,029 You know, I think in any case 239 00:08:26,384 --> 00:08:29,104 that you can put an experience in front 240 00:08:29,104 --> 00:08:31,425 of the consumer that that matches up to 241 00:08:31,425 --> 00:08:32,245 their expectation 242 00:08:32,625 --> 00:08:34,004 or maybe better said, 243 00:08:34,784 --> 00:08:37,264 what they already expect based on the rest 244 00:08:37,264 --> 00:08:38,084 of their life, 245 00:08:38,865 --> 00:08:40,705 is a great place to lean in. And 246 00:08:40,705 --> 00:08:41,205 so, 247 00:08:41,519 --> 00:08:42,420 you know, portals 248 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,420 are nothing new, 249 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,600 but how do you drive people into these 250 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,759 experiences and have some sort of a mobile 251 00:08:49,759 --> 00:08:50,259 environment 252 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,580 that they're used to, you know, 253 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,060 engaging with? You know, a really good example, 254 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,019 simple example, 255 00:08:56,774 --> 00:08:57,514 but is, 256 00:08:57,975 --> 00:08:59,815 you know, in every way, shape, and form, 257 00:08:59,815 --> 00:09:02,375 people can pay their bill or pay their 258 00:09:02,375 --> 00:09:03,894 co pay. Are they able to do it 259 00:09:03,894 --> 00:09:05,815 with, you know, Apple or Google Pay, for 260 00:09:05,815 --> 00:09:07,754 example? Again, something small, 261 00:09:08,054 --> 00:09:10,074 but something people are used to doing. 262 00:09:10,429 --> 00:09:12,669 You don't have that. Well, then you've you've 263 00:09:12,669 --> 00:09:15,549 created an extra layer, an extra friction point 264 00:09:15,549 --> 00:09:16,049 that, 265 00:09:16,829 --> 00:09:18,589 takes people out of the course of what 266 00:09:18,589 --> 00:09:21,329 they would normally do when engaging with, 267 00:09:22,029 --> 00:09:24,750 someone from a financial transaction. So I think 268 00:09:24,750 --> 00:09:26,504 if you can think about those types of 269 00:09:26,504 --> 00:09:28,665 scenarios, I think about a kiosk, I think 270 00:09:28,665 --> 00:09:31,725 about, you know, obviously, checking in, scheduling online, 271 00:09:31,785 --> 00:09:33,245 all of that kind of practical, 272 00:09:34,585 --> 00:09:37,304 ways that people engage with you. Those are 273 00:09:37,304 --> 00:09:39,625 certainly places to to lean in. I think 274 00:09:39,625 --> 00:09:41,625 the other piece of it is around data 275 00:09:41,625 --> 00:09:42,059 and data 276 00:09:42,940 --> 00:09:43,419 hygiene. 277 00:09:43,820 --> 00:09:46,620 More and more of what we see, especially 278 00:09:46,620 --> 00:09:47,120 online, 279 00:09:47,980 --> 00:09:49,039 really has a prerequisite 280 00:09:49,340 --> 00:09:50,080 for data. 281 00:09:50,779 --> 00:09:52,320 And so if you think about 282 00:09:52,779 --> 00:09:54,860 what you're seeing now with search and answer 283 00:09:54,860 --> 00:09:56,480 engines and all of the 284 00:09:57,184 --> 00:09:57,684 ChatGPT, 285 00:09:58,144 --> 00:10:00,544 Perplexity, Gemini, those types of things that people 286 00:10:00,544 --> 00:10:01,205 are using, 287 00:10:01,584 --> 00:10:02,325 it requires, 288 00:10:03,024 --> 00:10:05,845 those answer engines require good data and citations 289 00:10:05,985 --> 00:10:07,684 that they can trust. And so, 290 00:10:08,225 --> 00:10:09,904 that's a great place to lean in as 291 00:10:09,904 --> 00:10:10,404 well. 292 00:10:10,980 --> 00:10:13,139 Yeah. I agree. It certainly seems like data 293 00:10:13,139 --> 00:10:15,539 is is a a key investment and and 294 00:10:15,539 --> 00:10:17,620 things people are looking to hone in on 295 00:10:17,620 --> 00:10:19,959 right now from who we talk to. And, 296 00:10:20,659 --> 00:10:21,159 something 297 00:10:21,620 --> 00:10:23,220 else I wanted to ask, if you don't 298 00:10:23,220 --> 00:10:25,139 mind putting me kind of your your glasses 299 00:10:25,139 --> 00:10:27,424 to the future on. Yeah. Where where do 300 00:10:27,424 --> 00:10:29,345 you see the best opportunities for growth in 301 00:10:29,345 --> 00:10:30,004 the future? 302 00:10:30,865 --> 00:10:33,285 You know, I think it's going to be, 303 00:10:34,625 --> 00:10:35,924 through the lens of virtual. 304 00:10:36,785 --> 00:10:37,605 I think, again, 305 00:10:38,065 --> 00:10:40,165 especially as you go on the lower acuity 306 00:10:40,304 --> 00:10:42,085 end of the spectrum of care, 307 00:10:42,799 --> 00:10:45,299 people are prioritizing, obviously, convenience. 308 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,839 This is nothing new. This is obviously why 309 00:10:47,839 --> 00:10:48,820 urgent cares, 310 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:50,419 have become popular. 311 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,600 But people want to get the care they 312 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,879 need, in, out, and and move on. Right? 313 00:10:56,879 --> 00:10:58,914 And so I think, you know, if you're 314 00:10:58,914 --> 00:11:01,475 looking at entry points to the health care 315 00:11:01,475 --> 00:11:04,534 system, primary care, urgent care, virtual care, 316 00:11:05,475 --> 00:11:07,095 it's gonna be through the lens 317 00:11:07,475 --> 00:11:07,975 of, 318 00:11:08,754 --> 00:11:11,639 of a, kind of virtual type scenario. I 319 00:11:11,639 --> 00:11:13,079 think the other piece of that is the 320 00:11:13,079 --> 00:11:15,799 connectivity relative to all of that. So you 321 00:11:15,799 --> 00:11:16,779 think about wearables, 322 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,019 remote patient monitoring, etcetera. 323 00:11:20,039 --> 00:11:21,879 I think our ability to be able to 324 00:11:21,879 --> 00:11:24,519 manage people's lives and the care that they 325 00:11:24,519 --> 00:11:26,855 need and need to receive is gonna, you 326 00:11:26,855 --> 00:11:29,735 know, require us to have this connectivity. And 327 00:11:29,735 --> 00:11:30,235 so 328 00:11:30,855 --> 00:11:32,695 that's that's where I think a lot of 329 00:11:32,695 --> 00:11:34,215 the future is going to be. I think 330 00:11:34,215 --> 00:11:36,215 we'll see the social determinants of health and 331 00:11:36,215 --> 00:11:38,455 how we better take care of the wellness 332 00:11:38,455 --> 00:11:40,715 of our communities, not just the sick care. 333 00:11:41,399 --> 00:11:43,079 We've said that for some years now, but 334 00:11:43,079 --> 00:11:45,100 I think that's also a place where, 335 00:11:45,639 --> 00:11:48,299 we need to be investing certainly and then 336 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,299 a place that we'll see a lot of, 337 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:52,620 I think, heightened focus. 338 00:11:53,664 --> 00:11:55,024 And the last question I have for you, 339 00:11:55,024 --> 00:11:57,365 Reid, how have you evolved as a leader? 340 00:11:58,384 --> 00:12:00,465 Oh, man. What a great question. I mean, 341 00:12:00,465 --> 00:12:02,065 I think you can point to the obvious 342 00:12:02,065 --> 00:12:05,044 things, you know, post COVID with remote workforce 343 00:12:05,105 --> 00:12:07,709 or hybrid and and things like that. I 344 00:12:07,709 --> 00:12:09,789 think, you know, evolving as a leader is 345 00:12:09,789 --> 00:12:10,690 really requiring, 346 00:12:11,870 --> 00:12:13,789 you know, you to think about the whole 347 00:12:13,789 --> 00:12:15,490 person that's on your team. 348 00:12:16,750 --> 00:12:18,269 You know, you may not be able to 349 00:12:18,269 --> 00:12:20,049 solve every issue or 350 00:12:20,804 --> 00:12:23,205 appease everybody, so to speak. But I think 351 00:12:23,205 --> 00:12:25,764 the idea that, you know, we think about 352 00:12:25,764 --> 00:12:27,544 things like burnout with our clinicians, 353 00:12:28,325 --> 00:12:29,304 this is true, 354 00:12:29,605 --> 00:12:32,325 for really everybody in the space. And so 355 00:12:32,325 --> 00:12:33,625 how do you look at, 356 00:12:34,490 --> 00:12:36,589 you know, leading with purpose and example 357 00:12:37,289 --> 00:12:38,509 and and trying to heighten, 358 00:12:38,889 --> 00:12:41,210 the way that we, look for ways to 359 00:12:41,210 --> 00:12:43,950 reward and recognize folks and provide gratitude, 360 00:12:44,970 --> 00:12:47,690 and grace even, and then amongst all of 361 00:12:47,690 --> 00:12:50,414 that. So, again, I think it's, you know, 362 00:12:50,414 --> 00:12:53,134 a special way to to to hopefully take 363 00:12:53,134 --> 00:12:55,315 care of your team where people are energized, 364 00:12:55,535 --> 00:12:57,154 ultimately, to take care of patients. 365 00:12:58,254 --> 00:12:59,455 Great. Thanks so much for joining us on 366 00:12:59,455 --> 00:13:01,315 the podcast today. It was a great conversation. 367 00:13:01,375 --> 00:13:02,654 I look forward to working with you again 368 00:13:02,654 --> 00:13:04,355 soon. 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