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This is Grace Lim Keller with the Becker's
Healthcare Podcast, and we are live at the
9th annual health IT, digital health, and RCM
conference.
I'm joined right now by doctor George Cibulski,
who is a clinical AI leader at Humboldt
Park Health. So, doctor Przybylski, thanks so much
for joining me today. We'd love to have
you start off by introducing yourself a little
bit further and telling us about all the
things that you are into. Well, thank you
so much for having me. So I am
a neurosurgeon
by, training and experience,
but I have,
recently over the past,
2 years been more interested in seeing how,
artificial intelligence
can increase value in my care of patients.
So I've,
done some courses on it and have I'm
working on,
constructing a
use case
for evaluating,
lower back pain in the emergency department.
Awesome. Well, you're the perfect candidate for our
conversation today, and we're gonna start with AI
adoption that's exploding right now in health care.
So I'd love to hear in your view
what is the most significant or promising application
of this technology, and how is this informing
your innovation strategy?
Well, thanks. Yeah. AI
has the ability to interact with every
part of our delivery process in health care.
So
working backward
from what I would be doing, which is
evaluating a patient,
we could prescreen
the patient that I am evaluating
to make sure that we get the most
value out of my actual physical face to
face evaluation of that patient.
Working backward from that, when when the patient
is scheduled to see me,
AI could help by asking those same kind
of questions to make sure
this patient has an appropriate referral to see
a specialist for their back pain. For example,
if a person is had newly developed back
pain over a few days,
they probably don't need to see a neurosurgeon
right off the bat.
If they've likewise, if they've had back pain
for
a few years,
we would like to know before seeing them
have what kind of treatment they've had. Have
they have they had diagnostic
tests? What those have showed?
And I see AI as a way to
gather that information by asking the most relevant
questions for that patient
and then
really putting that that those answers into an
algorithm,
which gets that patient to see
a specialist or to do some,
conservative management like physical therapy beforehand.
And switching gears just slightly to the data
side of things. Healthcare leaders are managing greater
volumes of data and more devices across a
growing number of care settings.
And this has become a very complex environment.
So what clinical data integration tools or practices
are you seeing drive improvements
in patient outcomes?
Well, the
ability
to have a AI
enhancement of the electronic medical record, I think,
is is really the essential or critical way
to help keep track of all of those
components
of health care. For example, if I see
a patient
and
I think the patient would need an operation
on their spine,
hopefully, with AI, we would be able to
know that that patient would be preauthorized
to have that procedure,
and we could get that procedure then scheduled
in the most expeditious fashion.
And with the technological
innovation,
AI adoption,
greater volumes of data, we see the burden
on our IT teams
become much greater.
So I'd love to hear how you think
health care organizations can better support our IT
teams and also our clinical teams as we're
carrying out these innovation efforts.
Well, a conference just like now at Becker's,
I've been interacting with various
organizations
that really apply some out of the box
solutions
for pre authorization,
for revenue
cycle,
and for actual clinical diagnosis. So I think
the beauty of of
a program
such as, we're attending today is that it
shows a clinician like me
things that I can share with, the people
I work with in information technology back at
Humboldt Park Health
to make their work easier.
And then as we wrap up our conversation
today, I would love to know your top
piece of advice for health care leaders as
they prepare for further advancements in technology and
greater demands for care.
Well, it's a it's gonna be a challenge
because we're going to have
to continue
to learn and be open to learning,
and we have to learn
how various solutions that will be proposed
by organizations that I've talked with today,
how much their value will really contribute to
our organizations.
And, it's the same as, with instituting any
other type of program in a hospital
with supplies and things like that? Are we
getting the the best value for the investment?
And I understand you're an author. You've written
a book as well. So do you wanna
share a little bit about that piece of
work? Well, thanks, Grace. Yes. I'm very,
happy to say that this year, my book
called can we manage
to save health care was released on Amazon
and became a number one bestseller. The premise
of the book is is to look at
all of the challenges,
socioeconomic,
delivery,
electronic medical record to look at these challenges
to
to be frank about how we need to
overcome some of the challenges they present to
our giving value to patient care.
Well, thank you so much for joining me
today on the Becker's health care podcast.
Again, we're live at the 9th annual Health
IT Digital Health and RCM conference.
Thank you. Thank you. It's been my pleasure.