1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,839 Hello, everyone, and thank you for tuning in 2 00:00:01,839 --> 00:00:03,220 to the Becker's Healthcare podcast. 3 00:00:03,679 --> 00:00:05,440 We are thrilled to be joined today by 4 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,240 Barbara Casey, president of strategy and transformation at 5 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,320 Pixel Health. Barbara, thank you so much for 6 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:11,139 joining us. 7 00:00:11,599 --> 00:00:13,439 Thank you, Laura. I'm so happy to be 8 00:00:13,439 --> 00:00:16,114 here. Thanks for having me. Absolutely. Now I'm 9 00:00:16,114 --> 00:00:17,574 excited for today's conversation. 10 00:00:18,035 --> 00:00:19,475 Really, we have a lot to talk about 11 00:00:19,475 --> 00:00:20,914 it and so much is happening in health 12 00:00:20,914 --> 00:00:22,675 care. It's can be hard to keep up. 13 00:00:22,675 --> 00:00:24,755 So that'd be great to jump right in. 14 00:00:24,755 --> 00:00:26,035 Can you please tell us a little bit 15 00:00:26,035 --> 00:00:29,079 more about Pixel Health? Sure. Sure. We are 16 00:00:29,079 --> 00:00:31,980 a digital health consulting services organization. 17 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,020 We help design and plan and implement technology 18 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:37,979 based solutions 19 00:00:38,679 --> 00:00:40,840 that simplify and improve the way health care 20 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,059 organizations operate. 21 00:00:42,414 --> 00:00:45,075 We are also very collaborative with our clients. 22 00:00:45,295 --> 00:00:47,395 We work with them side by side, 23 00:00:48,015 --> 00:00:48,515 and 24 00:00:48,815 --> 00:00:50,674 we pretty much have integrated 25 00:00:51,215 --> 00:00:54,195 consulting services as well as technology services. 26 00:00:54,815 --> 00:00:57,075 We facilitate the use of technology, 27 00:00:58,409 --> 00:00:59,549 simplify the process 28 00:01:00,009 --> 00:01:02,670 of using it, and help overcome the organizational 29 00:01:02,969 --> 00:01:03,469 constraints 30 00:01:04,409 --> 00:01:06,989 many times of optimizing its adoption. 31 00:01:07,930 --> 00:01:10,729 Absolutely. I know that optimization piece is always 32 00:01:10,729 --> 00:01:12,750 easier said than done. So I can imagine 33 00:01:12,935 --> 00:01:15,174 a lot of organizations and leaders, you know, 34 00:01:15,575 --> 00:01:17,655 would be music to their ears. How is 35 00:01:17,655 --> 00:01:19,895 Pixel Health working to address the most pressing 36 00:01:19,895 --> 00:01:21,755 issues in health care IT today? 37 00:01:22,534 --> 00:01:25,415 So we have 4 distinct areas, Laura, that 38 00:01:25,415 --> 00:01:26,475 we focus on. 39 00:01:27,415 --> 00:01:29,810 Couple that are more on the, 40 00:01:30,510 --> 00:01:33,569 process and people side are connected health care 41 00:01:33,630 --> 00:01:35,950 and accessible health care. So in connected health 42 00:01:35,950 --> 00:01:38,829 care, we think of that as everything that 43 00:01:38,829 --> 00:01:41,090 is related to data, how it flows 44 00:01:41,674 --> 00:01:42,575 from the infrastructure 45 00:01:42,954 --> 00:01:43,775 to connecting 46 00:01:44,555 --> 00:01:45,614 people, devices, 47 00:01:46,075 --> 00:01:47,454 you know, business processes, 48 00:01:47,755 --> 00:01:50,174 all of those things, let's say, for providers. 49 00:01:51,275 --> 00:01:54,155 It's also the staff, you know, supporting doctors, 50 00:01:54,155 --> 00:01:56,954 supporting nurses, and inpatient as well as remote 51 00:01:56,954 --> 00:01:58,790 locations. How do we do that? 52 00:01:59,890 --> 00:02:02,689 Accessible health care really is more about access. 53 00:02:02,689 --> 00:02:04,549 So it's about patient access optimization. 54 00:02:05,329 --> 00:02:07,650 And as we think about these audiences, we 55 00:02:07,650 --> 00:02:10,530 we think about the experiences that people wanna 56 00:02:10,530 --> 00:02:12,935 have. So for its staff, it's in the 57 00:02:12,935 --> 00:02:13,675 work environment. 58 00:02:14,135 --> 00:02:17,495 If it's patients, it's with their caregivers and 59 00:02:17,495 --> 00:02:19,895 clinicians, right, their doctors, how they get into 60 00:02:19,895 --> 00:02:20,794 the health system. 61 00:02:21,655 --> 00:02:23,814 Is it digital? Is it self-service? Is it 62 00:02:23,814 --> 00:02:25,115 through a contact center? 63 00:02:25,689 --> 00:02:27,150 We do all kinds of 64 00:02:27,610 --> 00:02:29,629 consulting that supports those efforts 65 00:02:30,009 --> 00:02:31,550 for those different stakeholders. 66 00:02:32,169 --> 00:02:34,810 The third area that we cover and work 67 00:02:34,810 --> 00:02:37,550 on is what we call our IT foundation 68 00:02:38,009 --> 00:02:38,509 services. 69 00:02:39,174 --> 00:02:42,134 And this is really to promote resilient, secure, 70 00:02:42,134 --> 00:02:43,194 and cost effective 71 00:02:43,495 --> 00:02:43,995 IT. 72 00:02:44,294 --> 00:02:46,474 We work with our clients and their IT 73 00:02:46,534 --> 00:02:47,034 organizations 74 00:02:48,215 --> 00:02:50,794 to really help them figure out how to 75 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,520 how to just improve and optimize what they 76 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:55,020 do. 77 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,319 We also have a lot of deep expertise 78 00:02:57,319 --> 00:02:58,139 in infrastructure, 79 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,800 mostly on the networking side, I would say, 80 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:02,939 and the telecommunications 81 00:03:03,879 --> 00:03:04,379 side. 82 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,280 So we we do a lot of work 83 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,474 there, and we really have a platform and 84 00:03:09,474 --> 00:03:10,694 architectural approach 85 00:03:11,074 --> 00:03:13,234 when we work with with our health system 86 00:03:13,234 --> 00:03:13,734 clients. 87 00:03:14,354 --> 00:03:16,834 The 4th area that we work on is 88 00:03:16,834 --> 00:03:18,594 more about the how. So I would say 89 00:03:18,594 --> 00:03:20,534 it's innovation and and adoption. 90 00:03:21,250 --> 00:03:22,229 In that particular 91 00:03:22,530 --> 00:03:23,030 pillar, 92 00:03:23,409 --> 00:03:25,169 we end up doing a lot of human 93 00:03:25,169 --> 00:03:26,469 centered design work, 94 00:03:27,489 --> 00:03:29,969 journey mapping, things like that. You know, really 95 00:03:29,969 --> 00:03:33,009 defining the experiences that we wanna have in 96 00:03:33,009 --> 00:03:35,169 any of the digital health services that we're 97 00:03:35,169 --> 00:03:35,669 providing. 98 00:03:36,194 --> 00:03:37,574 We also do organizational 99 00:03:37,875 --> 00:03:38,375 design, 100 00:03:39,074 --> 00:03:42,915 product thinking type workshops, so really organizing an 101 00:03:42,915 --> 00:03:44,455 IT department or even 102 00:03:45,074 --> 00:03:46,935 health system by product types, 103 00:03:47,395 --> 00:03:49,235 and then really thinking about how to weave 104 00:03:49,235 --> 00:03:50,055 in innovation 105 00:03:50,719 --> 00:03:52,740 as well as sunsetting some capabilities. 106 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:55,139 So that's really more about 107 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,080 product and service development and how to keep 108 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,340 that fresh inside of an organization. 109 00:04:01,039 --> 00:04:03,439 So that's more almost how how do we 110 00:04:03,599 --> 00:04:06,295 how do you run your health system, and 111 00:04:06,295 --> 00:04:08,135 we focus on those things as well as 112 00:04:08,135 --> 00:04:10,795 we're developing new ideas with our clients. 113 00:04:11,655 --> 00:04:13,335 Well, that's amazing to hear, you know, and 114 00:04:13,335 --> 00:04:16,615 certainly a really needed service, for most health 115 00:04:16,615 --> 00:04:17,355 care organizations. 116 00:04:18,339 --> 00:04:21,699 Now looking ahead, what strategic areas is your 117 00:04:21,699 --> 00:04:24,680 organization focusing on to enhance your clients' performance? 118 00:04:25,939 --> 00:04:28,660 So we do have a couple of areas 119 00:04:28,660 --> 00:04:31,160 that we're focused on. In in that connected 120 00:04:31,300 --> 00:04:32,279 health care space, 121 00:04:32,740 --> 00:04:33,560 we are 122 00:04:34,395 --> 00:04:36,875 ideating and working with our clients on what 123 00:04:36,875 --> 00:04:38,654 we're calling spaces that care. 124 00:04:39,274 --> 00:04:40,495 So that's imagine 125 00:04:40,795 --> 00:04:42,574 the actual hospital room 126 00:04:43,035 --> 00:04:45,115 as being a member of the care team, 127 00:04:45,115 --> 00:04:45,935 if you will. 128 00:04:46,235 --> 00:04:49,535 So the hospital room itself is ambient aware. 129 00:04:49,970 --> 00:04:53,490 It's sensor rich. It's context aware. It starts 130 00:04:53,490 --> 00:04:53,990 automating 131 00:04:54,610 --> 00:04:55,110 possibly 132 00:04:55,650 --> 00:04:58,530 business processes that nurses don't have time to 133 00:04:58,530 --> 00:04:59,030 do. 134 00:04:59,970 --> 00:05:01,970 It, you know, it acts almost like a 135 00:05:01,970 --> 00:05:03,730 member of the care team if it's doing 136 00:05:03,730 --> 00:05:06,044 its job. It's underpinned by AI, 137 00:05:06,904 --> 00:05:09,485 and so it's really enabled, and it it 138 00:05:09,544 --> 00:05:11,084 becomes a whole new vision 139 00:05:11,544 --> 00:05:13,384 for, I think, a lot of what we 140 00:05:13,384 --> 00:05:15,245 wanna be able to do in the inpatient 141 00:05:15,305 --> 00:05:16,604 setting. So that's one. 142 00:05:17,599 --> 00:05:20,240 A second one is really the whole idea 143 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,539 of access optimization 144 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,300 and, you know, how do we really help 145 00:05:25,439 --> 00:05:26,899 health systems increase 146 00:05:27,759 --> 00:05:28,259 prioritizing 147 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,995 patient access? Or, I mean, it's, I shouldn't 148 00:05:30,995 --> 00:05:33,115 say, it's it is a priority for health 149 00:05:33,115 --> 00:05:34,574 systems today, for sure, 150 00:05:35,035 --> 00:05:38,175 recognizing their critical role in delivering care. 151 00:05:38,875 --> 00:05:40,814 However, you know, digital progression, 152 00:05:41,435 --> 00:05:44,735 we find, is often hindered by operational constraints 153 00:05:44,955 --> 00:05:45,855 in this area. 154 00:05:46,579 --> 00:05:49,060 Sometimes if health system wants to go full 155 00:05:49,060 --> 00:05:50,599 bore with online scheduling, 156 00:05:51,300 --> 00:05:53,779 they are sort of plagued by what's happening 157 00:05:53,779 --> 00:05:56,099 in their physician practices in terms of the 158 00:05:56,099 --> 00:05:58,579 workflows and the way that doctors want to 159 00:05:58,579 --> 00:05:59,079 schedule, 160 00:06:00,214 --> 00:06:02,214 you know, and it it is a shared 161 00:06:02,214 --> 00:06:04,855 experience. Right? It's a shared experience between a 162 00:06:04,855 --> 00:06:06,615 patient and a doctor, so we have to 163 00:06:06,615 --> 00:06:07,115 respect 164 00:06:07,735 --> 00:06:09,995 both stakeholders in that analysis 165 00:06:10,295 --> 00:06:11,639 and really do the work 166 00:06:12,280 --> 00:06:13,819 sometimes on operations, 167 00:06:14,199 --> 00:06:16,860 to help make some of those digital self-service 168 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,480 things happen. So we're we're doing a lot 169 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,540 of those things right now to really change 170 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,259 the way 171 00:06:24,254 --> 00:06:26,975 health care experiences for patients in terms of 172 00:06:26,975 --> 00:06:29,134 access can just be a lot more like 173 00:06:29,134 --> 00:06:30,194 what we would experience 174 00:06:30,735 --> 00:06:31,795 with other industries. 175 00:06:32,495 --> 00:06:34,254 You know, being able just to do everything 176 00:06:34,254 --> 00:06:36,035 you wanna do on your phone and 177 00:06:36,419 --> 00:06:39,539 and not necessarily having to call somebody to 178 00:06:39,539 --> 00:06:41,860 make an appointment as an example or or 179 00:06:41,860 --> 00:06:43,319 get in to see somebody quickly. 180 00:06:43,939 --> 00:06:45,379 That makes a lot of sense. You know? 181 00:06:45,379 --> 00:06:46,680 And I can imagine truly, 182 00:06:47,220 --> 00:06:49,699 something patients would be excited about too. As 183 00:06:49,699 --> 00:06:51,764 we all know, having that access on the 184 00:06:51,764 --> 00:06:54,404 phone and seamless ability to have more control 185 00:06:54,404 --> 00:06:57,785 over the health care experience certainly is something, 186 00:06:58,805 --> 00:07:00,745 patients have wanted and needed. 187 00:07:01,125 --> 00:07:03,685 Now from your perspective, can you share an 188 00:07:03,685 --> 00:07:06,185 example of where Pixel Health has done this? 189 00:07:07,490 --> 00:07:07,990 Sure. 190 00:07:08,449 --> 00:07:10,870 I'll go to the connected health care space 191 00:07:11,090 --> 00:07:13,330 side. So one of the things that we've 192 00:07:13,330 --> 00:07:15,110 done recently and and implemented 193 00:07:16,129 --> 00:07:18,689 with is with Boston Children's. We did a 194 00:07:18,850 --> 00:07:20,449 about a two and a half year project 195 00:07:20,449 --> 00:07:21,509 with them as 196 00:07:22,115 --> 00:07:25,415 one of their work streams to upgrade their 197 00:07:25,715 --> 00:07:28,115 EHR to Epic. They went all Epic. They 198 00:07:28,115 --> 00:07:28,855 had multiple 199 00:07:29,475 --> 00:07:32,915 EHR systems, and and they recently implemented Epic 200 00:07:32,915 --> 00:07:33,810 in the summer. 201 00:07:34,370 --> 00:07:36,689 And as a work stream there, they also, 202 00:07:36,689 --> 00:07:39,250 at the same time, mind you, wanted to 203 00:07:39,250 --> 00:07:41,110 implement their clinical communications 204 00:07:41,810 --> 00:07:45,410 technology stack and have that go live literally 205 00:07:45,410 --> 00:07:46,274 at the same time. 206 00:07:46,754 --> 00:07:48,514 And so we did a a number of 207 00:07:48,514 --> 00:07:50,834 different things with them to make that happen 208 00:07:50,834 --> 00:07:52,675 and make it go well for the nurses 209 00:07:52,675 --> 00:07:54,214 and doctors treating patients. 210 00:07:54,834 --> 00:07:56,995 One of the things we did was really 211 00:07:56,995 --> 00:07:58,454 understand their connectivity. 212 00:07:58,754 --> 00:07:58,834 So, 213 00:08:00,149 --> 00:08:02,709 really making sure that their network was working 214 00:08:02,709 --> 00:08:04,789 well so that when a doctor or a 215 00:08:04,789 --> 00:08:07,129 nurse went to have a phone call or 216 00:08:07,350 --> 00:08:09,750 do a secure text or, you know, put 217 00:08:09,750 --> 00:08:10,729 in some documentation 218 00:08:11,189 --> 00:08:12,615 that it actually worked, 219 00:08:13,414 --> 00:08:15,574 that the connectivity was there, and and it 220 00:08:15,574 --> 00:08:17,735 it they didn't drop calls, and they didn't 221 00:08:17,735 --> 00:08:19,435 lose their place in their workflow. 222 00:08:20,055 --> 00:08:21,354 So we implemented 223 00:08:21,814 --> 00:08:24,935 a 5 g private network, a stand alone 224 00:08:24,935 --> 00:08:27,414 5 g network with the assistance of T 225 00:08:27,414 --> 00:08:27,914 Mobile. 226 00:08:28,259 --> 00:08:30,180 That was a big work stream in that 227 00:08:30,180 --> 00:08:30,680 project, 228 00:08:31,139 --> 00:08:32,839 and it was the first of its kind. 229 00:08:33,059 --> 00:08:36,500 And nowhere else had there been a stand 230 00:08:36,500 --> 00:08:38,600 alone 5 g network specifically 231 00:08:39,299 --> 00:08:41,720 to underpin the clinical care team 232 00:08:42,304 --> 00:08:44,225 and all the different things that they're trying 233 00:08:44,225 --> 00:08:46,804 to get done. So that was interesting. And 234 00:08:46,865 --> 00:08:47,684 we also, 235 00:08:48,225 --> 00:08:48,725 implemented 236 00:08:49,345 --> 00:08:49,845 several 237 00:08:50,225 --> 00:08:52,625 systems to make sure that the technology would 238 00:08:52,625 --> 00:08:54,945 work for doctors and nurses the day they 239 00:08:54,945 --> 00:08:56,404 showed up. And 240 00:08:56,779 --> 00:08:58,620 and that took a long time because it 241 00:08:58,620 --> 00:09:00,960 was really, you know, getting those systems to 242 00:09:01,179 --> 00:09:02,879 actually go live correctly 243 00:09:03,259 --> 00:09:05,120 on the day and be 244 00:09:05,500 --> 00:09:07,120 really staggered to do that, 245 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:09,595 as well as just all the work flows. 246 00:09:09,595 --> 00:09:11,595 So we worked with them kind of unit 247 00:09:11,595 --> 00:09:14,475 by unit to really create what are the 248 00:09:14,475 --> 00:09:17,434 workflows that are gonna be optimized, and and 249 00:09:17,434 --> 00:09:19,115 then how do we make sure it all 250 00:09:19,115 --> 00:09:20,875 works the way they would want it to 251 00:09:20,875 --> 00:09:23,250 in the experience that they wanted to have. 252 00:09:23,570 --> 00:09:26,129 We we're really big on human centered design 253 00:09:26,129 --> 00:09:28,230 work, so we start typically 254 00:09:28,769 --> 00:09:31,889 with the experience that that our care teams 255 00:09:31,889 --> 00:09:33,809 wanna have. In this case, you know, in 256 00:09:33,809 --> 00:09:35,809 a patient, it might be a patient experience 257 00:09:35,809 --> 00:09:37,570 that we're really trying to map, like, a 258 00:09:37,570 --> 00:09:38,070 journey 259 00:09:38,615 --> 00:09:40,774 and understand what that needs to be like. 260 00:09:40,774 --> 00:09:43,334 So that's where we've done it recently, and 261 00:09:43,334 --> 00:09:45,174 they're they're having a lot of stick of 262 00:09:45,174 --> 00:09:46,554 success right now 263 00:09:46,934 --> 00:09:49,995 in terms of their clinical communications of work. 264 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,600 That's fascinating to hear, and what a great 265 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,259 opportunity to be part of something first ever, 266 00:09:55,879 --> 00:09:57,559 really in the nation and then to see 267 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,639 it be successful as well at a place 268 00:09:59,639 --> 00:10:01,720 as important as a children's hospital. I I 269 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,860 can imagine that's very gratifying and certainly impressive. 270 00:10:05,475 --> 00:10:07,634 Looking ahead, what excites you about the power 271 00:10:07,634 --> 00:10:09,894 of information and technology in health care? 272 00:10:10,514 --> 00:10:11,815 Well, I know it's probably 273 00:10:12,434 --> 00:10:13,735 said often, but 274 00:10:14,514 --> 00:10:15,894 AI is is extremely 275 00:10:16,914 --> 00:10:18,375 exciting and powerful 276 00:10:18,754 --> 00:10:20,620 and, you know, I guess that's the the 277 00:10:20,620 --> 00:10:22,139 scary part of it too is that it 278 00:10:22,139 --> 00:10:24,559 could be there are risks involved. And so 279 00:10:24,620 --> 00:10:27,659 we all have to chart carefully into those 280 00:10:27,659 --> 00:10:31,199 waters and and understand, you know, what governance 281 00:10:31,339 --> 00:10:33,019 should be there or, you know, what are 282 00:10:33,019 --> 00:10:35,254 sort of the the boundaries that we should 283 00:10:35,254 --> 00:10:37,334 put on it. But at least from the 284 00:10:37,334 --> 00:10:39,254 things that we've seen in working with our 285 00:10:39,254 --> 00:10:41,194 clients and really trying to do, 286 00:10:41,735 --> 00:10:44,134 I call it augmented intelligence as opposed to 287 00:10:44,134 --> 00:10:46,235 artificial intelligence, because I think 288 00:10:46,950 --> 00:10:47,769 the augmentation 289 00:10:48,389 --> 00:10:49,769 really to the humans 290 00:10:50,389 --> 00:10:52,550 is so important. I think that's the piece 291 00:10:52,550 --> 00:10:55,110 that that's really going to to be the 292 00:10:55,110 --> 00:10:58,389 game changer is that it can hopefully allow 293 00:10:58,389 --> 00:10:59,129 us to 294 00:10:59,670 --> 00:11:02,324 get more complex or, you know, allow the 295 00:11:02,324 --> 00:11:04,164 human to really do what the human does 296 00:11:04,164 --> 00:11:04,664 well, 297 00:11:05,044 --> 00:11:07,605 and and then alleviate some of the burden, 298 00:11:07,605 --> 00:11:10,564 you know, cognitive or otherwise, that individuals are 299 00:11:10,564 --> 00:11:11,944 trying to to master 300 00:11:12,324 --> 00:11:14,725 on a daily basis and, you know, hopefully 301 00:11:14,725 --> 00:11:16,940 do a lot of the rote or repetitive 302 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,299 type motions 303 00:11:18,759 --> 00:11:20,679 for us or, you know, whether that's writing 304 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:21,179 or 305 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,040 business process automation or, you know, whatever that 306 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,799 is. That's I think it'll be a game 307 00:11:25,799 --> 00:11:28,299 changer, and I know everybody else does too. 308 00:11:28,919 --> 00:11:29,899 I also think 309 00:11:30,335 --> 00:11:32,595 because of all this advanced tech, 310 00:11:33,215 --> 00:11:33,955 there are 311 00:11:34,335 --> 00:11:36,654 some basics that we need to go back 312 00:11:36,654 --> 00:11:37,154 to 313 00:11:37,695 --> 00:11:40,355 in terms of going slower to go faster, 314 00:11:40,575 --> 00:11:41,075 and, 315 00:11:41,774 --> 00:11:44,440 I think doing just a lot more thoughtful, 316 00:11:44,579 --> 00:11:45,639 focused planning, 317 00:11:46,579 --> 00:11:49,079 using human centered design, you know, doing 318 00:11:49,940 --> 00:11:52,019 a lot of the journey maps up front, 319 00:11:52,019 --> 00:11:54,899 you know, defining those experiences we wanna have 320 00:11:54,899 --> 00:11:55,559 up front 321 00:11:56,004 --> 00:11:58,725 will really help us go faster in terms 322 00:11:58,725 --> 00:12:01,144 of how we then implement new technologies 323 00:12:01,924 --> 00:12:03,225 in the future. So 324 00:12:04,245 --> 00:12:06,264 that's maybe a little twist on your question. 325 00:12:07,365 --> 00:12:08,725 I love that. I I think it makes 326 00:12:08,725 --> 00:12:10,230 a lot of sense. You know, it's really 327 00:12:10,309 --> 00:12:11,669 exciting to be part of that wave of 328 00:12:11,669 --> 00:12:13,669 innovation that's happening right now in the health 329 00:12:13,669 --> 00:12:16,570 care space and really making very positive changes 330 00:12:16,629 --> 00:12:18,949 for health care teams as well as their 331 00:12:18,949 --> 00:12:21,350 patients and communities at large. I wanna thank 332 00:12:21,350 --> 00:12:23,669 you, Barbara, for sharing your time and insights 333 00:12:23,669 --> 00:12:25,855 with us today and Pixel Health for sponsoring 334 00:12:25,915 --> 00:12:28,475 today's content. To our listeners, thank you for 335 00:12:28,475 --> 00:12:30,235 joining us, and please be sure to check 336 00:12:30,235 --> 00:12:32,875 out other Becker's podcasts. Have a wonderful rest 337 00:12:32,875 --> 00:12:35,115 of your day. Thank you, Laura. Thanks for 338 00:12:35,115 --> 00:12:35,855 having me.