1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,360 - Welcome back to the Becker's Healthcare Podcast, 2 00:00:02,435 --> 00:00:04,325 devoted the people who power US healthcare. 3 00:00:04,585 --> 00:00:05,925 I'm Molly Gamble Becker's, 4 00:00:05,925 --> 00:00:08,645 and delighted to have you join us for another episode filled 5 00:00:08,645 --> 00:00:10,205 with Insights from healthcare leaders. 6 00:00:10,735 --> 00:00:13,365 Today we're spending some time with Sanjeev SA system, 7 00:00:13,395 --> 00:00:15,005 vice President of IT Strategy 8 00:00:15,025 --> 00:00:17,005 and Cyber Fusion Information Technology 9 00:00:17,115 --> 00:00:18,565 with Common Spirit Health. 10 00:00:19,195 --> 00:00:22,445 Sanjeev, welcome. Thanks for joining me today. How are you? 11 00:00:22,505 --> 00:00:24,325 And where does podcast find you? 12 00:00:25,295 --> 00:00:28,395 - Uh, I'm doing great. Uh, thank you for having me, Molly. 13 00:00:29,095 --> 00:00:30,595 Um, I'm really privileged 14 00:00:30,615 --> 00:00:32,835 and honored to be in conversation with Hugh, 15 00:00:33,375 --> 00:00:35,795 and I'm looking forward to any engaging dialogue 16 00:00:36,375 --> 00:00:37,595 on variety of different topics. 17 00:00:39,055 --> 00:00:42,295 - Likewise, me too. I'm excited to learn from you, Sanjeev. 18 00:00:42,295 --> 00:00:43,455 Uh, you know, to start off, 19 00:00:43,695 --> 00:00:46,135 I think most listeners are fully aware 20 00:00:46,195 --> 00:00:47,455 of Common Spirit Health. 21 00:00:47,755 --> 00:00:50,455 So my question for you to kick us off 22 00:00:50,515 --> 00:00:53,415 and just help us better appreciate your perspective in our 23 00:00:53,415 --> 00:00:55,935 conversation today, your role system, 24 00:00:55,965 --> 00:00:57,335 vice President IT strategy 25 00:00:57,435 --> 00:00:59,775 and Cyber Fusion information Technology. 26 00:01:00,595 --> 00:01:03,215 If you had to describe your work to me in, in simple terms, 27 00:01:03,685 --> 00:01:04,815 what would those terms be? 28 00:01:06,095 --> 00:01:07,985 - Yeah, um, sounds great, Molly. 29 00:01:08,205 --> 00:01:11,625 So, with Central Health's merger with Common Spirit, 30 00:01:12,245 --> 00:01:15,745 you know, I joined the Common Spirit family in my role 31 00:01:15,965 --> 00:01:20,585 as system vice president for IT strategy and cyber vigilance 32 00:01:20,725 --> 00:01:23,625 and defense, uh, also called Cyber Fusion. 33 00:01:24,725 --> 00:01:28,505 Uh, in this role, I truly have a fantastic opportunity 34 00:01:28,685 --> 00:01:32,865 to partner with my colleagues, uh, to make a true difference 35 00:01:32,865 --> 00:01:35,065 for patients, families, 36 00:01:35,325 --> 00:01:40,065 and communities by influencing both the technology 37 00:01:40,325 --> 00:01:41,625 and cyber strategy. 38 00:01:42,645 --> 00:01:47,625 Um, in this, uh, model, we are then able 39 00:01:47,725 --> 00:01:52,025 to maximize the value of technology, transform 40 00:01:52,285 --> 00:01:54,385 how care is delivered to patients, 41 00:01:55,365 --> 00:01:58,425 and enhance experience for our clinicians. 42 00:01:59,325 --> 00:02:04,265 Um, so with, um, a digital transformation initiatives 43 00:02:04,265 --> 00:02:08,425 that we have and, uh, workflow enhancements that we are able 44 00:02:08,425 --> 00:02:11,065 to create with this strategy 45 00:02:11,645 --> 00:02:16,425 or a combination of strategies, um, they create efficiency 46 00:02:16,485 --> 00:02:19,545 for our workforce, uh, for our clinicians 47 00:02:19,925 --> 00:02:23,545 and truly improve their satisfaction, um, 48 00:02:24,385 --> 00:02:26,865 ultimately helping us achieve the 49 00:02:27,095 --> 00:02:28,665 quadruple aim in healthcare. 50 00:02:29,565 --> 00:02:32,905 Uh, so this role is really exciting in that way 51 00:02:33,455 --> 00:02:35,945 that it brings together, uh, 52 00:02:36,145 --> 00:02:39,945 capabilities from technology people, um, 53 00:02:40,485 --> 00:02:43,545 and, uh, emerging, uh, technologies 54 00:02:43,685 --> 00:02:46,945 and capabilities in the marketplace to help us achieve 55 00:02:46,945 --> 00:02:49,465 that goal and outcome that we have. Mm-Hmm, 56 00:02:49,745 --> 00:02:52,135 - , that's a really helpful overview. 57 00:02:52,155 --> 00:02:54,135 And then more recently, you know, 58 00:02:54,545 --> 00:02:56,255 where are you spending most of your time 59 00:02:56,275 --> 00:02:58,495 and energy in your work these days? 60 00:02:59,025 --> 00:03:00,965 What's commanding your attention most? 61 00:03:02,175 --> 00:03:05,745 - Yeah, so like, uh, any, uh, new leader, uh, 62 00:03:05,745 --> 00:03:09,225 coming into a big family, uh, I'm spending my time 63 00:03:09,445 --> 00:03:11,065 and efforts in a couple of different ways. 64 00:03:11,725 --> 00:03:14,585 Um, one, it is just, uh, developing 65 00:03:14,585 --> 00:03:16,745 and building relationships, partnerships 66 00:03:16,845 --> 00:03:20,425 and setting priorities, uh, to do that. 67 00:03:20,845 --> 00:03:23,985 Um, you know, I'm, again, spending my time and energy 68 00:03:24,085 --> 00:03:27,905 and, um, uh, developing those partnerships 69 00:03:27,905 --> 00:03:29,785 with my colleagues both in IT 70 00:03:30,125 --> 00:03:34,905 and stakeholders across the enterprise, um, to, you know, 71 00:03:34,905 --> 00:03:38,665 build that collaboration, gaining valuable insights 72 00:03:38,735 --> 00:03:41,265 that they're able to share with me, uh, 73 00:03:41,265 --> 00:03:43,265 developing a comprehensive understanding, 74 00:03:43,885 --> 00:03:47,705 and then leveraging them for, you know, strategy as well as, 75 00:03:47,965 --> 00:03:49,585 uh, tactical perspectives. 76 00:03:50,505 --> 00:03:53,985 I think the second, uh, uh, thing I can highlight in terms 77 00:03:53,985 --> 00:03:57,665 of, uh, how I'm spending, uh, my time at, 78 00:03:57,765 --> 00:04:00,145 at the moment is, uh, looking 79 00:04:00,155 --> 00:04:03,505 after cybersecurity safeguards, controls, 80 00:04:03,505 --> 00:04:04,545 and their effectiveness. 81 00:04:05,165 --> 00:04:07,785 Uh, I have partnered with my colleagues, uh, 82 00:04:07,885 --> 00:04:11,065 in common spirit cyber technology teams 83 00:04:11,445 --> 00:04:12,785 and our external partners 84 00:04:13,485 --> 00:04:17,185 to gimme a really good understanding of the overall context, 85 00:04:18,585 --> 00:04:21,705 evaluate the current state, state of our cyber strategy 86 00:04:21,925 --> 00:04:25,145 and the capabilities, again in terms of people, process 87 00:04:25,325 --> 00:04:28,785 and technology, and then leverage that insight 88 00:04:28,785 --> 00:04:32,425 and understanding to develop immediate next steps, as well 89 00:04:32,425 --> 00:04:36,665 as developing roadmaps to further enhance our cyber posture. 90 00:04:37,685 --> 00:04:41,745 So, you know, in essence, um, it's about taking the time 91 00:04:41,745 --> 00:04:45,985 to learn, uh, taking, uh, the time to gain insights, 92 00:04:46,405 --> 00:04:48,385 and then turning those understanding 93 00:04:48,565 --> 00:04:52,145 and insights into, uh, what our immediate 94 00:04:52,245 --> 00:04:53,465 and long-term plans are. 95 00:04:55,755 --> 00:04:58,335 - You know, I I'm really glad you brought up cybersecurity 96 00:04:58,335 --> 00:05:00,615 because this is something that's been top of mind. 97 00:05:01,215 --> 00:05:04,495 I, I would say more than ever, as of late, the number 98 00:05:04,495 --> 00:05:06,575 of ransomware attacks in, in healthcare 99 00:05:06,575 --> 00:05:10,335 and healthcare settings was reached a high 100 00:05:10,555 --> 00:05:11,575 in 2023. 101 00:05:12,645 --> 00:05:16,455 When, when we talk about cybersecurity from your seat, 102 00:05:17,005 --> 00:05:18,775 what are some of the biggest considerations 103 00:05:18,775 --> 00:05:22,415 that we really need to keep in mind today about the nature 104 00:05:22,475 --> 00:05:24,335 of threats that health systems are facing? 105 00:05:25,125 --> 00:05:26,975 What do we need to be paying more attention 106 00:05:27,075 --> 00:05:28,575 to or more closely? 107 00:05:29,235 --> 00:05:32,295 And then what, if anything, Sanjeev is a distraction? 108 00:05:32,565 --> 00:05:35,495 What maybe is noise that can command attention 109 00:05:35,675 --> 00:05:38,975 but doesn't necessarily take us down productive paths? 110 00:05:39,025 --> 00:05:41,335 Where would you suggest that listeners keep their eyes? 111 00:05:42,655 --> 00:05:46,545 - Yeah, this is, um, a really time, uh, 112 00:05:46,825 --> 00:05:48,105 relevant, uh, question. 113 00:05:48,395 --> 00:05:50,225 Molly. You know, unfortunately, 114 00:05:50,405 --> 00:05:53,905 the US healthcare sector is reeling from cybersecurity 115 00:05:53,905 --> 00:05:55,945 threats, and it has for some time, 116 00:05:56,885 --> 00:05:59,085 and the exposures, um, 117 00:05:59,865 --> 00:06:02,405 at times have had some detrimental consequences. 118 00:06:03,265 --> 00:06:05,645 Uh, if we just look at the data, you know, 119 00:06:05,945 --> 00:06:10,245 hip hop breaches in 23 nearly doubled, um, 120 00:06:10,575 --> 00:06:11,645 since 2018. 121 00:06:12,625 --> 00:06:16,245 Um, in 2023 alone, uh, 122 00:06:16,375 --> 00:06:21,285 ransomware hit 140 plus hospitals, um, 123 00:06:21,795 --> 00:06:25,685 with, um, you know, ransom being demanded in many cases. 124 00:06:26,705 --> 00:06:29,685 Um, so if we are a healthcare provider, uh, 125 00:06:29,925 --> 00:06:31,485 a medical technology firm, 126 00:06:32,305 --> 00:06:35,565 or just an health IT company, um, 127 00:06:36,545 --> 00:06:41,005 we have a responsibility to address 128 00:06:41,385 --> 00:06:45,245 and take care of, um, uh, technology 129 00:06:45,305 --> 00:06:49,725 and technology assets as well as people, uh, uh, interacting 130 00:06:49,725 --> 00:06:52,685 and working, uh, with tools and technologies. 131 00:06:53,345 --> 00:06:56,125 So the couple of recommendations I would have in terms of, 132 00:06:56,385 --> 00:06:59,405 um, best practices would be 133 00:07:00,035 --> 00:07:01,725 monitor for cyber threats. 134 00:07:02,105 --> 00:07:05,485 Uh, really leveraging the threat intelligence 135 00:07:05,545 --> 00:07:10,045 to track new risks, uh, deploying, uh, detective 136 00:07:10,065 --> 00:07:13,845 and preventative tools to what's out for, uh, 137 00:07:13,895 --> 00:07:15,445 suspicious activity. 138 00:07:16,305 --> 00:07:20,205 Uh, and then really developing, uh, plans to be able 139 00:07:20,225 --> 00:07:21,605 to respond to them. 140 00:07:22,305 --> 00:07:25,325 Um, you know, if, if we identify vulnerabilities, 141 00:07:25,665 --> 00:07:27,085 um, remediating them. 142 00:07:27,985 --> 00:07:32,165 The second category of, uh, uh, advice would be, uh, 143 00:07:32,685 --> 00:07:34,005 managing cyber risk, uh, 144 00:07:34,005 --> 00:07:37,085 conducting comprehensive risk assessments regularly. 145 00:07:37,705 --> 00:07:41,085 Uh, this includes, uh, risks associated with third parties, 146 00:07:41,905 --> 00:07:45,725 uh, ensuring that, uh, security safeguards 147 00:07:45,745 --> 00:07:50,245 and controls are, uh, being leveraged in a way, uh, 148 00:07:50,475 --> 00:07:52,085 that is, uh, effective. 149 00:07:52,745 --> 00:07:56,765 Uh, and then really ensuring, um, that 150 00:07:57,635 --> 00:07:59,965 this process of safeguarding 151 00:08:00,185 --> 00:08:03,845 and ensuring safety is a regular, uh, inherent process. 152 00:08:05,025 --> 00:08:08,605 Um, and I think the third area, uh, of suggestion would be 153 00:08:08,605 --> 00:08:12,205 to just enhance response and recovery capabilities. 154 00:08:13,345 --> 00:08:15,765 You know, you never know when it's gonna come handy, 155 00:08:16,345 --> 00:08:20,765 and the best, uh, way to be prepared is to practice, um, 156 00:08:21,645 --> 00:08:24,725 documented plans, um, you know, ensuring 157 00:08:24,925 --> 00:08:27,325 that tabletop exercises take place. 158 00:08:28,025 --> 00:08:30,365 Uh, people have clear understanding of the roles 159 00:08:30,365 --> 00:08:35,045 that they would play and have clear communication channels. 160 00:08:36,025 --> 00:08:39,325 Uh, uh, maybe a, uh, a couple more in terms of, 161 00:08:39,645 --> 00:08:41,205 I highlighted effectiveness, right? 162 00:08:41,235 --> 00:08:46,165 Effecting effectiveness of cyber safeguards controls, um, in 163 00:08:46,165 --> 00:08:50,845 that, uh, it would be important to, um, measure, 164 00:08:51,185 --> 00:08:52,885 uh, their effectiveness, um, 165 00:08:53,745 --> 00:08:56,965 and then, uh, take steps to 166 00:08:57,715 --> 00:08:59,165 enhance effectiveness. 167 00:08:59,305 --> 00:09:03,085 Uh, what I really mean by that is, uh, let's say that, uh, 168 00:09:03,085 --> 00:09:04,765 we evaluate the security control 169 00:09:04,985 --> 00:09:08,085 and it is, um, you know, three fourths effective. 170 00:09:08,545 --> 00:09:13,085 We ought to place efforts to continue to, uh, um, 171 00:09:13,355 --> 00:09:15,085 enhance that and make it even better. 172 00:09:15,625 --> 00:09:19,365 And lastly, um, med tech security. 173 00:09:19,495 --> 00:09:24,045 These are, uh, devices that are used to, uh, 174 00:09:24,045 --> 00:09:27,805 provide care to patients, uh, ensuring that, um, 175 00:09:27,895 --> 00:09:29,965 these devices are safe to operate 176 00:09:30,625 --> 00:09:33,925 and have proper, uh, segmentation 177 00:09:34,025 --> 00:09:38,205 or security measures to, um, address relevant 178 00:09:38,225 --> 00:09:39,365 and related issues. 179 00:09:40,285 --> 00:09:42,965 I think the question about , what may be distracting, 180 00:09:43,345 --> 00:09:47,525 really, there's a lot going on, uh, in the industry from a 181 00:09:48,115 --> 00:09:50,845 cybersecurity threat and, um, threat 182 00:09:50,865 --> 00:09:52,445 and exposure perspectives. 183 00:09:53,025 --> 00:09:56,485 Uh, I think it's being, uh, you know, resolute 184 00:09:56,545 --> 00:09:59,405 and being very focused on ensuring that safe parts 185 00:09:59,425 --> 00:10:00,805 and controls are effective 186 00:10:01,465 --> 00:10:04,805 and that we continue to place our efforts to, uh, 187 00:10:05,075 --> 00:10:09,485 enhance their posture would be my, um, you know, 188 00:10:09,985 --> 00:10:13,725 set of recommendations for, um, all our stakeholders 189 00:10:13,905 --> 00:10:16,165 and all of our audience listening 190 00:10:16,165 --> 00:10:18,365 to our conversation today. Mm-Hmm. 191 00:10:18,405 --> 00:10:20,085 - looking further upstream. 192 00:10:20,885 --> 00:10:22,485 Y you know, as you were walking us 193 00:10:22,485 --> 00:10:23,805 through this jiva I was thinking through, 194 00:10:24,155 --> 00:10:26,445 there's information available to us 195 00:10:26,445 --> 00:10:29,045 that would suggest the nature of a lot of these attacks. 196 00:10:29,675 --> 00:10:32,085 They've, they've grown more cruel, right? 197 00:10:32,105 --> 00:10:35,805 You've children's hospitals affected large sums 198 00:10:35,805 --> 00:10:37,045 of money demanded from 199 00:10:37,595 --> 00:10:41,685 poor safety net hospitals within short windows of time, um, 200 00:10:41,795 --> 00:10:43,685 leaking of photos of patients. 201 00:10:44,625 --> 00:10:47,045 But you know what, I, I was curious if you had any thoughts 202 00:10:47,045 --> 00:10:49,005 about the nature of the risks, too. 203 00:10:49,235 --> 00:10:52,525 When we talk about managing risks, we, we have a sense from 204 00:10:52,525 --> 00:10:54,685 what we've seen about how these attacks, 205 00:10:54,745 --> 00:10:57,565 the way they're played out, has grown more malicious. 206 00:10:58,065 --> 00:11:00,565 Is there anything worth noting about the risks too? 207 00:11:00,705 --> 00:11:04,285 Are they, uh, tougher to detect? Are they more subtle? 208 00:11:05,345 --> 00:11:07,125 Are any trends there that you can share? 209 00:11:08,195 --> 00:11:09,485 - Yeah, so I think, um, 210 00:11:09,905 --> 00:11:12,365 and that's a really good insightful question, 211 00:11:12,505 --> 00:11:16,285 and it would be very helpful for, um, our audience 212 00:11:16,305 --> 00:11:17,925 to have a perspective on that as well. 213 00:11:18,025 --> 00:11:20,405 So if we think about risk, um, I like 214 00:11:20,405 --> 00:11:22,125 to think about in a couple of different ways. 215 00:11:22,545 --> 00:11:26,765 Um, one, um, that is, uh, 216 00:11:27,275 --> 00:11:31,205 operational disruption or service disruption, right? 217 00:11:31,625 --> 00:11:35,725 So no matter it's a cyber related event that causes 218 00:11:35,725 --> 00:11:37,565 that disruption or something else. 219 00:11:38,165 --> 00:11:39,405 I think that risk is 220 00:11:39,405 --> 00:11:43,285 what we have seen in our recent examples being very 221 00:11:43,315 --> 00:11:44,605 real in our industry. 222 00:11:45,185 --> 00:11:46,565 Uh, and then second, uh, 223 00:11:46,765 --> 00:11:48,965 I think you highlighted well in terms of, uh, 224 00:11:48,965 --> 00:11:50,405 protected health information 225 00:11:50,545 --> 00:11:53,245 or personally identifiable information. 226 00:11:53,475 --> 00:11:56,165 This something, uh, information 227 00:11:56,165 --> 00:12:00,085 and data we're entrusted with, uh, you know, data breach, 228 00:12:00,425 --> 00:12:03,205 uh, in itself is, is, is a major concern. 229 00:12:04,145 --> 00:12:07,725 And, uh, and the combination there were two, uh, do pose, 230 00:12:08,065 --> 00:12:12,165 um, exposure, uh, for organization from a variety 231 00:12:12,185 --> 00:12:13,325 of different perspectives. 232 00:12:13,785 --> 00:12:17,085 And so I will say, um, you know, just again, going back to 233 00:12:17,315 --> 00:12:19,045 what should we do about it, right? 234 00:12:19,545 --> 00:12:21,965 Uh, ensuring that we have good protections, 235 00:12:22,035 --> 00:12:25,205 that we have good monitoring in place, we have ability 236 00:12:25,305 --> 00:12:28,725 to respond, uh, when the event does occur. 237 00:12:29,465 --> 00:12:31,885 Uh, we have good communication protocol. 238 00:12:32,225 --> 00:12:37,125 So just enabling, um, yourselves with ourselves, with 239 00:12:37,725 --> 00:12:41,165 capabilities that gives us the best opportunity to prevent 240 00:12:41,385 --> 00:12:44,165 and protect, uh, and safeguard operations. 241 00:12:45,535 --> 00:12:48,405 - Right. Sanjeev, this is a really timely overview 242 00:12:48,545 --> 00:12:51,445 of cybersecurity, and it's a really helpful 243 00:12:51,785 --> 00:12:53,005 and healthy refresher. 244 00:12:53,465 --> 00:12:54,925 But before we, as we wind down here, 245 00:12:54,925 --> 00:12:56,645 before we close, I wanted to also just check in 246 00:12:56,645 --> 00:12:57,925 and see if there's an aspect of your work, 247 00:12:57,945 --> 00:12:59,445 and this may include cybersecurity 248 00:12:59,445 --> 00:13:02,805 or be outside of it, that, that recently really excited you. 249 00:13:03,805 --> 00:13:06,695 - Yeah. Um, this may sound cliche, 250 00:13:06,695 --> 00:13:10,135 but you know, what I'm really, um, excited about 251 00:13:10,875 --> 00:13:14,215 are the opportunities to serve in our mission 252 00:13:15,075 --> 00:13:18,575 of building healthy communities, by advocating for those 253 00:13:18,635 --> 00:13:21,295 who are poor and vulnerable, um, 254 00:13:21,835 --> 00:13:25,175 by innovating from technology and cyber perspectives. 255 00:13:25,765 --> 00:13:29,895 When we enhance how and where healing can happen. 256 00:13:30,755 --> 00:13:34,975 To me, it's a meaningful, uh, journey to be on. 257 00:13:35,795 --> 00:13:39,895 Um, along, uh, the same, um, 258 00:13:40,715 --> 00:13:45,575 way when it comes to cyber, um, uh, I'm engaged 259 00:13:45,645 --> 00:13:47,255 with, uh, and a member 260 00:13:47,355 --> 00:13:50,575 of the health sector coordinate coordinating council, 261 00:13:51,385 --> 00:13:52,575 cyber working group, 262 00:13:52,795 --> 00:13:55,495 and I serve as a member of the executive committee. 263 00:13:56,355 --> 00:13:59,055 Um, and this, uh, forum really 264 00:13:59,635 --> 00:14:03,015 is an exciting public private partnership, um, 265 00:14:03,725 --> 00:14:07,775 thus facilitated by HSCC, um, to then 266 00:14:08,615 --> 00:14:11,095 identify systematic cyber security threats 267 00:14:11,355 --> 00:14:14,175 to critical healthcare infrastructure, uh, 268 00:14:14,655 --> 00:14:16,335 collaborate on guidance and policies 269 00:14:16,355 --> 00:14:20,735 for mitigating those risks and promoting threat preparedness 270 00:14:20,835 --> 00:14:22,495 and incident response awareness 271 00:14:23,195 --> 00:14:25,415 and activities throughout the healthcare industry. 272 00:14:26,155 --> 00:14:30,455 So, uh, in the combination, uh, I'm truly really, 273 00:14:30,995 --> 00:14:32,215 uh, excited about 274 00:14:32,275 --> 00:14:35,135 and look forward to the work, uh, 275 00:14:35,135 --> 00:14:38,535 that we are currently doing and the work that we, um, 276 00:14:39,155 --> 00:14:40,735 and I can look forward to. 277 00:14:41,435 --> 00:14:43,935 Uh, so really exciting times for, for, for me 278 00:14:43,935 --> 00:14:48,855 and for my role and my, my, uh, opportunity to collaborate 279 00:14:48,855 --> 00:14:50,815 and work with my colleagues in the industry. 280 00:14:51,345 --> 00:14:53,205 - Mm-Hmm. , I mean, I think 281 00:14:53,205 --> 00:14:55,845 that response helps me better see that your role, it's, uh, 282 00:14:56,145 --> 00:15:00,845 not only about reducing and controlling harm and risk, 283 00:15:01,305 --> 00:15:03,845 but also about bringing net new value 284 00:15:04,025 --> 00:15:05,285 and creating more value 285 00:15:05,545 --> 00:15:07,605 for technology and reaching more people. 286 00:15:09,605 --> 00:15:11,855 - Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. 287 00:15:11,855 --> 00:15:14,055 Thank you so much for, for that question. 288 00:15:15,405 --> 00:15:17,695 - Well, Sanjeev, thank you for the chance to visit with you. 289 00:15:17,955 --> 00:15:20,575 Any final thoughts for our listeners in closing? 290 00:15:22,025 --> 00:15:23,235 - Yeah, I, I, first 291 00:15:23,335 --> 00:15:25,795 and foremost, I would, uh, I just want to thank you 292 00:15:25,815 --> 00:15:28,035 for the opportunity to share my thoughts with you 293 00:15:28,895 --> 00:15:29,995 and for your audience, 294 00:15:30,655 --> 00:15:32,395 and, you know, just thank you for having me. 295 00:15:33,055 --> 00:15:36,515 Um, I think the, the thought I would like to share 296 00:15:37,215 --> 00:15:41,715 for current context in the industry is really this, um, 297 00:15:42,185 --> 00:15:44,515 cybersecurity concern that we all have. 298 00:15:44,775 --> 00:15:47,755 Mm-Hmm. , it's a, it's a shared responsibility, 299 00:15:48,295 --> 00:15:51,875 and I would like to promote all of us to do our part. 300 00:15:52,615 --> 00:15:56,275 Um, and if anyone is interested in, uh, 301 00:15:56,275 --> 00:15:59,475 finding the right resources, uh, the 302 00:16:00,465 --> 00:16:02,995 hscc website, um, at 303 00:16:03,695 --> 00:16:07,395 health sector council.org, uh, 304 00:16:07,775 --> 00:16:10,835 can serve as a very helpful place 305 00:16:10,975 --> 00:16:15,275 to find just the right resources, uh, for, uh, 306 00:16:15,295 --> 00:16:19,835 anyone needing, um, guidance on cybersecurity matters. 307 00:16:20,835 --> 00:16:24,255 - Great. It's been my episode with Sanjeev SA system, 308 00:16:24,255 --> 00:16:25,615 vice President of IT Strategy 309 00:16:25,715 --> 00:16:27,655 and Cyber Fusion Information Technology 310 00:16:27,655 --> 00:16:28,975 with Common Spirit Health. 311 00:16:29,405 --> 00:16:31,695 Sanjeev, thank you so much for being my guest today. 312 00:16:31,935 --> 00:16:34,135 I hope we can catch up again soon 313 00:16:34,195 --> 00:16:35,495 and check in with you and your work. 314 00:16:36,505 --> 00:16:38,495 - Thank you. My pleasure, .